[Official] Toadfish | Puffer Fish

[Rastafla]

If you want to see more use of the puffer lower its much too high cost instead of dmg if it cost 2 i would use it instead of crawlers in some decks.

[genraenera]

I'd have to say I agree with Gl1tch here, the card is still underpowered; scorpio could use a nerf maybe, but thats a topic for another thread.  Until we start seeing pufferfish commonly in pvp decks or any player decks really there is no argument that it is overpowered.  To be honest, I'd like it to get a -1 to cost, making it a much more versatile card.

[twinsbuster]

This card is in the buff this card section before. Now it goes to nerf section? The original poster, I wanna kick your face.

[jmdt]

I'd have to say I agree with Gl1tch here, the card is still underpowered; scorpio could use a nerf maybe, but thats a topic for another thread.  Until we start seeing pufferfish commonly in pvp decks or any player decks really there is no argument that it is overpowered.  To be honest, I'd like it to get a -1 to cost, making it a much more versatile card.

Yeah, -1 cost to this would help it a great deal.

[hermantheowl]

The problem isn't the changes you made, it's the basis for why you changed the card.

You don't want your opponent to play one.

Your otyugh based rainbow can't kill them, your permafrost shield can't block them, and your SoGs can't keep up with the cumulative damage.  Both your (and rastafla's) argument centers around scorpio being too difficult.

That is not a good reason to nerf a card.  When a god is out of balance with the rest, change the god, not the card.  It's like editing the bottom of a pyramid because the top looks crooked.  It doesn't end well.

So instead of proposing Puffer-fish nerfs, why not propose scorpio nerfs.  It fixes the problem while maintaining game balance.

Since when have the FG's been made fair yet without nerfing cards. I don't think that will ever happen so nerfing cards that make them unfair will be the only option. I don't think the designers realizes how brutal the FG's really are. And why does beating them have to be the only good option for getting upgrades? IF being the source of upgrades is their purpose then they are too toughor not rewarding enough for that purpose.

[smuglapse]

I don't think the designers realizes how brutal the FG's really are.

I think he's aware:

(http://imageplay.net/)

Also,

People not used to FG farming cannot possibly understand what amount of coins that are available to us users who do.
If i put my mind to in in a few hours i have 20k provided im blessed with a good string of FGs and fair luck. If i want a fully upped NEW 30 card deck with cards i don't previously own it usually takes me 1½-2 days and that's 45k.

[Appawesome]

IMO, out of all the unupped cards, this is the best creature.

It has the third best atk/cost ratio of the unupped creature cards.  (Ash eater is 1st, mummy is 2nd)
It's cc on a stick.


Maybe change it to 5|4 with Inflate.

[Toimu13]

5 for a 6/4 with the worst CC in-game, I think it is fine.

[Mastermind79]

It used to be 5|4 with Inflate, before 1.25. I think it's pretty good like this, it gives slow CC.

Also, what's wrong with having a card better than others? I can see that Toadfish, compared to, say, Abomination, is much better. But Abomination is within possibly the strongest element of the game. Toadfish is lethal with the rest of 's CC, but the costs slow it down too much.

[Malignant]

Actually 5|3 before, Photon is the damage/cost ratio and this doesn't need a nerf.

[RootRanger]

This card completely relies on another element. When will you have the quanta for its ability? In a water/air deck? Water/Air lacks PC, mass CC, any form of immortality, and its best stat boosting is dive. That horrible combo deserves a semi-OP card. Keep the poor toadfish as is.

[Glitch]

Not to pry, but 5 water for 6 damage is worse than the following:

3 damage for free
1 damage for free
3 damage for 2
4 damage for 3
In fact, all of those also beat mummy, and the first two beat ash eater.

It's attack power to cost ratio is actually pretty poor.

And now for my usual mantra:
Before you post a card in the nerf this card section, please play WITH the card, not just against it.
Before you post a card in the buff this card section, please play AGAINST the card, not just with it.