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[Official] Skull Shield | Skull Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487435#msg487435
« on: April 25, 2012, 10:15:28 pm »


this shield feels like 50% probability to turn attackers into skelletons
its too high
plz nerf this
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487438#msg487438
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 10:17:46 pm »
"Because it feels like a 50% probability, nerf it."

Hm, I'm afraid I'm going to disagree here, and not just because a certain thread has not been read...
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487453#msg487453
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 10:37:52 pm »
Quote from: morflink on April 25, 2012, 10:15:28 pm
this shield feels like 50% probability to turn attackers into skelletons
its too high
plz nerf this
50% is too high.
It feels like 50%.
It is not 50%.
It should not be nerfed.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487479#msg487479
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 11:09:26 pm »
The percentage is actually extremely low, and I never use this card because of it.  Every once in awhile I forget this and put it into a deck, and then watch as a horde of creatures kick my ass without ever skeletonizing.

The percentage is somehow related to the hp of the attacking creature, but I forget exactly how; i.e. a phoenix is more likely to become a skeleton than a massive dragon.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487485#msg487485
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 11:13:33 pm »
Quote from: dragonsdemesne on April 25, 2012, 11:09:26 pm
The percentage is actually extremely low, and I never use this card because of it.  Every once in awhile I forget this and put it into a deck, and then watch as a horde of creatures kick my ass without ever skeletonizing.

The percentage is somehow related to the hp of the attacking creature, but I forget exactly how; i.e. a phoenix is more likely to become a skeleton than a massive dragon.

interesting, cuz i play lava golem phoenix deck atm
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487487#msg487487
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 11:15:04 pm »
Yeah. 50%? no. just no. Hate to be blunt, but that is an extreme exaggeration, and if you are using Lava Golems and other low HP creatures, there's your problem.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487490#msg487490
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 11:18:50 pm »
Quote from: morflink on April 25, 2012, 11:13:33 pm
Quote from: dragonsdemesne on April 25, 2012, 11:09:26 pm
The percentage is actually extremely low, and I never use this card because of it.  Every once in awhile I forget this and put it into a deck, and then watch as a horde of creatures kick my ass without ever skeletonizing.

The percentage is somehow related to the hp of the attacking creature, but I forget exactly how; i.e. a phoenix is more likely to become a skeleton than a massive dragon.

interesting, cuz i play lava golem phoenix deck atm

That's where your problem is. Thhe chance to turn creatures into skeletons is 50%/HP. Your creatures have 1 HP, so they have 50% chance to die to it. if they had 2Hp, it'd be 25%, ect.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487658#msg487658
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 04:27:50 am »
My goodness. Seriously? Seriously? I wouldn't be surprised if you started yelling how dusk shield should be nerfed, and so should pests because they drain whatever quanta you need. Skull shield has already been suggested for nerf many times, and it's only 50% when you're using 1hp creatures.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487661#msg487661
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 04:29:44 am »
Creatures in a shrieker rush have only 17% chance to shrivel to skeletons. No way.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487868#msg487868
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 05:21:24 pm »
Quote from: Jenkar on April 25, 2012, 11:18:50 pm

That's where your problem is. Thhe chance to turn creatures into skeletons is 50%/HP. Your creatures have 1 HP, so they have 50% chance to die to it. if they had 2Hp, it'd be 25%, ect.


why this dont write the formula on this card,
i think every player want to know if there is just a "small chance" or a function who determinate the meaning of "small chance".
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg487872#msg487872
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 05:34:01 pm »
Quote from: morflink on April 26, 2012, 05:21:24 pm
Quote from: Jenkar on April 25, 2012, 11:18:50 pm

That's where your problem is. Thhe chance to turn creatures into skeletons is 50%/HP. Your creatures have 1 HP, so they have 50% chance to die to it. if they had 2Hp, it'd be 25%, ect.


why this dont write the formula on this card,
i think every player want to know if there is just a "small chance" or a function who determinate the meaning of "small chance".
Zanz has not discovered / been informed of a good way to state the chance on the card. If you come up with a good way then the card text might be changed.
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Re: nerf skull shield / skull buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39181.msg488021#msg488021
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 10:34:53 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on April 26, 2012, 05:34:01 pm
Quote from: morflink on April 26, 2012, 05:21:24 pm
Quote from: Jenkar on April 25, 2012, 11:18:50 pm

That's where your problem is. Thhe chance to turn creatures into skeletons is 50%/HP. Your creatures have 1 HP, so they have 50% chance to die to it. if they had 2Hp, it'd be 25%, ect.


why this dont write the formula on this card,
i think every player want to know if there is just a "small chance" or a function who determinate the meaning of "small chance".
Zanz has not discovered / been informed of a good way to state the chance on the card. If you come up with a good way then the card text might be changed.

just write it down directly: The probability is a function of the attacking creature: P(hp) = 0,5 / hp, or just give a hint that there is a formula and where to find
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