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Nerf the synergy of Dim Shield and Lobotmizer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39657.msg492842#msg492842
« on: May 04, 2012, 08:19:25 pm »
Why are there so many monoaether stall decks? Because dim shield is very strong. But with the Lobotmizer it becomes nearly indestructible. Another benefit is that both uses same quanta to run. Now the Lobotmizer makes special creatures becoming vanilla creatures which then getting stuck in the dim shield. A possible solution would be if a player uses dim shield his weapon will be disabled till the shield runs out. This as a trade off for all the creatures of the opponent not being able to attack at all.
You can imagine this as the phasing out of space of the player with the dim shield therefore his weapon is getting phased out as well making it useless for the time.

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Re: Nerf the synergy of Dim Shield and Lobotmizer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39657.msg492904#msg492904
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 09:55:15 pm »
Why are there so many monoaether stall decks? Because dim shield is very strong. But with the Lobotmizer it becomes nearly indestructible. Another benefit is that both uses same quanta to run. Now the Lobotmizer makes special creatures becoming vanilla creatures which then getting stuck in the dim shield. A possible solution would be if a player uses dim shield his weapon will be disabled till the shield runs out. This as a trade off for all the creatures of the opponent not being able to attack at all.
You can imagine this as the phasing out of space of the player with the dim shield therefore his weapon is getting phased out as well making it useless for the time.
This synergy hurts a small portion of creatures. Charger and physalia being the most prime examples. Nothing else really bothers it much anyways.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2012, 09:57:05 pm by omegareaper7 »
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Re: Nerf the synergy of Dim Shield and Lobotmizer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39657.msg492905#msg492905
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 09:57:10 pm »
bring a couple deflags/steals/BE/pulvies?
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Re: Nerf the synergy of Dim Shield and Lobotmizer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39657.msg493240#msg493240
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 11:56:55 am »
There is already a long nerf Dimensional Shield thread- one of the proposed nerfs there is that the weapon of the player using it does not attack.

EDIT: Never mind. I thought I remembered one but it seems to have vanished on me. I agree that dim shield should be nerfed, but maybe by decreasing to two turns and 4|3 rather than also nerfing lobo.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 12:00:25 pm by Fireleaf »
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Re: Nerf the synergy of Dim Shield and Lobotmizer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39657.msg493328#msg493328
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 05:28:07 pm »
There is already a long nerf Dimensional Shield thread- one of the proposed nerfs there is that the weapon of the player using it does not attack.

EDIT: Never mind. I thought I remembered one but it seems to have vanished on me. I agree that dim shield should be nerfed, but maybe by decreasing to two turns and 4|3 rather than also nerfing lobo.
Dime shield is fine, there are several commonly used ways around it.
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