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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg524792#msg524792
« Reply #348 on: July 24, 2012, 02:01:50 am »
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 Also, I am very interested to see you use gravy dragon, titan, or armagio in decks that don't make use of their high hp.

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Gravy Dragon? Sounds delicious!

On-topic: Some of these fixes are starting to sound a little too complicated, no?

Not really, except the sacrifice one, but how about this for a simple fix?

Generate singularity upon death, unless mark is  :gravity.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg524794#msg524794
« Reply #349 on: July 24, 2012, 02:10:30 am »
Does overaccretion count as death? If so, then this basically disables SoFo for every single non gravity mark deck unless they can deal with the singularity immediately.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg524799#msg524799
« Reply #350 on: July 24, 2012, 02:24:31 am »
Does overaccretion count as death? If so, then this basically disables SoFo for every single non gravity mark deck unless they can deal with the singularity immediately.

Overaccretion counts as death, but any deck can still use it, they will just activate it only twice and won't get BH either.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg524803#msg524803
« Reply #351 on: July 24, 2012, 02:30:01 am »
Does overaccretion count as death? If so, then this basically disables SoFo for every single non gravity mark deck unless they can deal with the singularity immediately.

Overaccretion counts as death, but any deck can still use it, they will just activate it only twice and won't get BH either.
Upped or unupped singularity? Unupped would be way easier to kill and usable by a lot more elements, upped is much harder to kill. This will also lead to more entropy rainbows using this with mutation for the singularities.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg524813#msg524813
« Reply #352 on: July 24, 2012, 02:38:55 am »
The fact that this thread is 30 pages long is kinda proof in itself :p

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg525010#msg525010
« Reply #353 on: July 24, 2012, 03:01:18 pm »
Does overaccretion count as death? If so, then this basically disables SoFo for every single non gravity mark deck unless they can deal with the singularity immediately.

Overaccretion counts as death, but any deck can still use it, they will just activate it only twice and won't get BH either.

Now there's an idea I can get behind. For added simplicity (thinking of the text) Upon death, creates Singularity (BH if mark of  :gravity)

Benefits:
1. only two permanents can be destroyed for non-gravity-mark decks
2. cost is essentially 3  :rainbow for each permanent destroyed by a non-gravity-mark deck (makes it more expensive then explosion, which it should be)
3. Anyone playing it at 0/1 runs the risk of having it zapped and having a singularity in their field

Does point three underpower it, though? Maybe, upon death, creates an anti-supernova. (?) a

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg525025#msg525025
« Reply #354 on: July 24, 2012, 04:13:50 pm »
Does overaccretion count as death? If so, then this basically disables SoFo for every single non gravity mark deck unless they can deal with the singularity immediately.

Overaccretion counts as death, but any deck can still use it, they will just activate it only twice and won't get BH either.

Now there's an idea I can get behind. For added simplicity (thinking of the text) Upon death, creates Singularity (BH if mark of  :gravity)

Benefits:
1. only two permanents can be destroyed for non-gravity-mark decks
2. cost is essentially 3  :rainbow for each permanent destroyed by a non-gravity-mark deck (makes it more expensive then explosion, which it should be)
3. Anyone playing it at 0/1 runs the risk of having it zapped and having a singularity in their field

Does point three underpower it, though? Maybe, upon death, creates an anti-supernova. (?) a
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg529070#msg529070
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He must enter 0/8 and destroy at most two permanent, their cost may be 8 :rainbow.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg529738#msg529738
« Reply #356 on: August 06, 2012, 03:43:31 pm »
He must enter 0/8 and destroy at most two permanent, their cost may be 8 :rainbow.

I like this idea.
The singularity at the end is a bit too much for me, but I agree that there should be a minor dissadvantage for marks other than  :gravity

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg529746#msg529746
« Reply #357 on: August 06, 2012, 03:58:40 pm »
30 pages is too much of a read at one sitting but I wanted to get the idea out there - sorry if someone already came up with it.

When Shard of Focus enters play it recieves 3 tokens.

 :rainbow: Remove one token to destroy a target permanent. Gain 10 HP if your mark is Gravity

0/1 Creature


We lose the BH effect but leave a target for Acceleration or Gravity Pull once it dies - it still adds significant PC to every element but it becomes a fragile target for everyone except Gravity. And while a nova still allows you to play one quickly it at least forces you into an interesting choice for a mark to use.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg530320#msg530320
« Reply #358 on: August 07, 2012, 07:27:44 pm »
It has to enter 0/1. Its the only weakness this shard have.
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Accreation: Destroys a permanent, gets +0/+15, if HP>25, instant blackhole for both. Does not affect Gravity quanta.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg530323#msg530323
« Reply #359 on: August 07, 2012, 07:31:07 pm »
Increasing cost is a bad idea. The increased :rainbow cost doesn't make that much difference for rainbows, but makes it harder to be used in regular decks (like shards are supposed to). Nerf the effect, not the cost.

 

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