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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg500578#msg500578
« Reply #144 on: May 18, 2012, 08:53:43 pm »
Got an idea how to change focus while talking on chat and people seemed to like it:

Instead of focusing itself, everything else is focused on the shard:
Basically, all targeted effects are focused on this creature. Perma control, creature control, everything that needs targeting.
It could have 5+X HP, where X is your :gravity divided by 5, allowing it to have up to 20 HP. The HP needs careful balancing since every targeted effect would be blocked/redirected. It needs to be useful but not overpowered, like the current shard. Permanent control - since it is originally not meant to deal damage to creatures - should do about 10-15 to the shard.

If this is found too powerful, maybe limit the focus to one side of the field - so your opponents can still target themselves with Purify if they want to.

This change would be nice to limit control and to provide creature and permanent protection outside of the few elements that have it.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg500591#msg500591
« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2012, 09:22:50 pm »
Got an idea how to change focus while talking on chat and people seemed to like it:

Instead of focusing itself, everything else is focused on the shard:
While this idea is an old and popular idea. There is something to be said in favor of an Other PC card. That ^ idea is better suited to a mono Gravity card.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501504#msg501504
« Reply #146 on: May 20, 2012, 07:49:09 pm »
Just the point of view of someone that play quite a lot :

This card is totally stupid and ruined every games where I played it/my opponent used it.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501506#msg501506
« Reply #147 on: May 20, 2012, 07:49:50 pm »
Just the point of view of someone that play quite a lot :

This card is totally stupid and ruined every games where I played it/my opponent used it.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501513#msg501513
« Reply #148 on: May 20, 2012, 07:59:42 pm »
For the unupped metagame you make turn 1 nova SoFO you have win. I don't know a lot of deck that can play CC first turn. Also lots of deck doesn't have always CC in their hand (I just recently lost vs a SoFO deck with firestall so..)

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501517#msg501517
« Reply #149 on: May 20, 2012, 08:11:32 pm »
For the unupped metagame you make turn 1 nova SoFO you have win. I don't know a lot of deck that can play CC first turn. Also lots of deck doesn't have always CC in their hand (I just recently lost vs a SoFO deck with firestall so..)

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How can this particular usage be nerfed sufficiently?
An activation cost of 3 :rainbow would give SoFO 5 :rainbow + 4 :underworld over 4 turns. This would slow down the Pillar destruction (by an insignificant 1 pillar turn) and slow down the eventual Black Hole but would it be enough?
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501519#msg501519
« Reply #150 on: May 20, 2012, 08:19:45 pm »
First thing is : 0 activation cost is clearly OP.
Giving increasing HP isn't a good idea either methink, the card should get counter like a "get fat" counter and at 3 counter it become a BH. like that it stay a vulnerable creature, because when it's a 0/16 you will never kill it.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501520#msg501520
« Reply #151 on: May 20, 2012, 08:22:55 pm »
Or make it start with 45 hp and lose 15 hp each time it accretes. Free accretion should also be changed.

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« Reply #152 on: May 20, 2012, 08:34:22 pm »
Or make it start with 45 hp and lose 15 hp each time it accretes. Free accretion should also be changed.

This would just make the card even more OP.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501533#msg501533
« Reply #153 on: May 20, 2012, 08:51:45 pm »
i dont know how this card should be nerfed, but i know it should. reason:if i had them id play them in all my decks. whenever my oppenent plays them i lose. i do pack soft CC(electrecutor) but its not enough because my openent often gets it out a turn earlier, and then he can just destroy my electrecutor. in order to counter this card, i would have to completely change my deck. this is harmful to the metagame, as it shuts down some decks, without opening new decks. the goal of new cards should be to create more possibilities to make the game more fun. this card does the oppisite. i know i could pack hard CC but i shouldnt have to.
tldr; this card is still OP after the nerf because i shouldnt be required to put CC in every deck.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501582#msg501582
« Reply #154 on: May 20, 2012, 11:42:20 pm »

tldr; this card is still OP after the nerf because i shouldnt be required to put CC in every deck.

Well, then, with the space saved by not putting in CC, you can slip in some PAs.  There are plenty of answers to this card, that are still useful when it's not being played against you.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg501584#msg501584
« Reply #155 on: May 20, 2012, 11:44:11 pm »

tldr; this card is still OP after the nerf because i shouldnt be required to put CC in every deck.

Well, then, with the space saved by not putting in CC, you can slip in some PAs.  There are plenty of answers to this card, that are still useful when it's not being played against you.
Yes. Because I can obviously slip in PAs into every single deck I build and for every important permanent I have.

 

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