[Official] Shard of Focus | Shard of Focus

[YellowfLash]

Gratz to the 2 legitimate forum members for their very usefull quotes..
I said like 6 years.. i culculated my time here in my job.. i am playing it since i got here.. maybe its not the first or the second year.. and i am pretty sure its not just 2-3 years game.. its gotta be more than that..

Also when a thread has like 98598665 pages you cannot expect a member to go through all the pages just to see if someone else has already posted your ideas.
this is not community friendly..
You post what you wanna say..

Now i am sorry if i am playing since forever and i have like 3 posts here.. also i cannot talk SoCafhauuekfha Sogajfdobr and i cannot understand..
That doesnt mean i dont have like 10+ sosacs..
ok i understand when you speak but i am quite old here and know these cards or stategies.. the new player doesn't..

No regard in this forum by its members for the new player..

I am not talking about admins or mods cause i have no complains at all.. they are very helpfull.

But if a new member comes here and reads a couple of posts he will leave and never come back..
and even if he decides to post he will ge the usual try to stack sockjkdshfjsdhfsdfjsefh over the sodfpskjh and be all confused-dissapointed..

[SnoWeb]

Revolution.

To show my support I will not use any acronym any more.

Cu

[ddevans96]

I said like 6 years.. i culculated my time here in my job.. i am playing it since i got here.. maybe its not the first or the second year.. and i am pretty sure its not just 2-3 years game.. its gotta be more than that..

This game was posted in May of 2009, as you can see >here<. We have a lot of people saying they've played longer than the game has existed due to faulty memory. Time can really fly.

Also when a thread has like 98598665 pages you cannot expect a member to go through all the pages just to see if someone else has already posted your ideas.
this is not community friendly..
You post what you wanna say..

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No regard in this forum by its members for the new player..

I am not talking about admins or mods cause i have no complains at all.. they are very helpfull.

But if a new member comes here and reads a couple of posts he will leave and never come back..
and even if he decides to post he will ge the usual try to stack sockjkdshfjsdhfsdfjsefh over the sodfpskjh and be all confused-dissapointed..

As a veteran member, I'd like to apologize on genius's behalf. I disagree that your comment was unrefined, and to be honest I don't think he is yet in a place to make that statement.

This is not how we should be treating newer players who have valid concerns, especially when we have enough trouble getting people active. I understand the sarcastic responses to the 6 years comment, and I would have done them myself if you were not respectful in your first post. However, most everything else in your posts has been relatively insightful.

[Chapuz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWdSNFfbZw

[Laxadarap]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNWdSNFfbZw

Chapuz, you are awesome.  The ad for the beginning of that was definitely a Victoria's secret ad

[bob8willie]

i just want to say, all people who want it nerf'd/changed either dont have it, or dont have enough for an actual sofo deck. all the people who dont want it changed at all are the ones that rely on sofo for their decks. maybe we should ask people who have never seen it before, and have niether used or played against it. makes the poll much more accurate

[russianspy1234]

i just want to say, all people who want it nerf'd/changed either dont have it, or dont have enough for an actual sofo deck. all the people who dont want it changed at all are the ones that rely on sofo for their decks. maybe we should ask people who have never seen it before, and have niether used or played against it. makes the poll much more accurate

in order to do that, you need to find someone who has  never played PvP / Arena / very little FGs

[Cheesy111]

i just want to say, all people who want it nerf'd/changed either dont have it, or dont have enough for an actual sofo deck. all the people who dont want it changed at all are the ones that rely on sofo for their decks. maybe we should ask people who have never seen it before, and have niether used or played against it. makes the poll much more accurate

I have 6 unupped sofo and 6 upped sofo.  I want it nerfed heavily.  Why do you think everyone that wants it changed doesn't have any of it?

[Laxadarap]

i just want to say, all people who want it nerf'd/changed either dont have it, or dont have enough for an actual sofo deck. all the people who dont want it changed at all are the ones that rely on sofo for their decks. maybe we should ask people who have never seen it before, and have niether used or played against it. makes the poll much more accurate

Not sure if sarcasm, if not, it probably should be.  That is an extremely bad idea.  The only way to actually determine balance is through playing.  Everything else is theoretical.

in order to do that, you need to find someone who has  never played PvP / Arena / very little FGs

I second this.  I have more SoFo's than I have of SoG's.  If you've played a while, you'll know how messed up that is.

I have 6 unupped sofo and 6 upped sofo.  I want it nerfed heavily.  Why do you think everyone that wants it changed doesn't have any of it?

I second this absolutely.

[OldTrees]

i just want to say, all people who want it nerf'd/changed either dont have it, or dont have enough for an actual sofo deck. all the people who dont want it changed at all are the ones that rely on sofo for their decks. maybe we should ask people who have never seen it before, and have niether used or played against it. makes the poll much more accurate

When I first saw it I judged it to be OP because it was strictly more efficient than the pre nerf Deflagration.
When I played against (trainer playtesting) it my judgement was it was still OP.
When I played against a turn 1 capable deck (still trainer) my judgement was confirmed.
To further verify this judgement I switched the two decks I was using. When I used SoFo I still thought it was OP.
Finally I revisited the cost theory to see if any relevant considerations had been revealed. In light of the difficultly of very early CC, I modified my theoretical estimate of SoFo's resilience based on the potential metagame warping. This resulted in an even more OP theoretical estimate.

I have been in all the relevant shoes and have thought it was OP in all of them.

[pervepic]

1. It is not perfect, because too many people are complaining
2. Can't increase playing cost much, because it would make it to be useful only in rainbows
3. Don't like adding activation cost, since it makes that Shard and its use even more complicated
4. Fever turns when it comes to Black Hole - I agree with that, a simple and sensible nerf.
5. Freezes/ rewinds rather than destroys - an interesting idea for a new water or time card
6. Lower HP if turns into Black Hole if mark is not gravity - a possible way to nerf it, but in order to be a noticable nerf there should be too big differences between Shards that are played with mark and that are not (and are therefore destroyable with the usual CC).
7. If HP falls rather than rises then it is a buff not a nerf
8. Using a Shard too much in a row creates a Singularity - no more Singularities (read: too coplex and artificial nerfs), please!
9. Introducing more anti-PC counters. Something like PA for aether or entropy, for example? Not sure. Basically that kind of indirect nerfing is a good idea, because creates new cards, but that takes a long time and needs some deep thinking and calculations
10. If it doesn't creat BH then it should be a fire Shard
11. It shouldn't be gravity pullable - actually I would be glad if someone uses it like a slower version of an Armagio. No need to take away that kind of secondary functions that enrich the game but still do no make SoF considerably stronger.
12. No reason why Pillars, Pendulums or whatever should be untouchable if they are not immortal cards themslves (like a Mirror Shield)
13. If it requires gravity to use then it wouldn't be a Shard. Now if there are new permanents and Shards added there just should be an option for every element to destroy those, otherwise stronger elements (having PC)just becoming stronger and weaker are becoming weaker and too dependent on other elements that have PC.
14. Activation costs grows - I didn't like adding activation cost
15. Change it profoundly - no, that Shard is needed because many perms were added
16. Other nerf - not necessary, I already agreed with the option 4.

[redeyesly]

Make upgraded protect artifact colorless, like animate weapon. Then every deck will have 6 of them, and nobody will play sofo anymore. Or leave it like it is and let people continue to abuse the hell out of it. Lately I've been using mitosis and quint on a sofo, then you've got a permanent black hole factory, like a ghetto gravity nymph.