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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1013964#msg1013964
« Reply #612 on: November 07, 2012, 09:27:19 pm »
With SoFo we have not only PC for every element, it even REPLACED the PC that we had before.
Monofire / immolation decks no longer use explosions because SoFo is BETTER.
In my opinion it needs to be nerfed AT LEAST to the point where it becomes worse (yes, worse, not equal to) in its use than an explosion in a fire deck or a rainbow.
What is your reason for why an Other card should be worse than an elemental card in a rainbow? (Being worse in an elemental deck is obviously good design)
Though when it come to the point which even a mono player DO think SoF might be the better idea over their own PC card, that become petty obvious...
At least it should make Fire players think stick to explosion is a obvious better idea over SoF.

Not to mention explosion itself is a popular card, before SoFo came out.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1013982#msg1013982
« Reply #613 on: November 07, 2012, 10:15:11 pm »
With SoFo we have not only PC for every element, it even REPLACED the PC that we had before.
Monofire / immolation decks no longer use explosions because SoFo is BETTER.
In my opinion it needs to be nerfed AT LEAST to the point where it becomes worse (yes, worse, not equal to) in its use than an explosion in a fire deck or a rainbow.
What is your reason for why an Other card should be worse than an elemental card in a rainbow? (Being worse in an elemental deck is obviously good design)
Though when it come to the point which even a mono player DO think SoF might be the better idea over their own PC card, that become petty obvious...
At least it should make Fire players think stick to explosion is a obvious better idea over SoF.

Not to mention explosion itself is a popular card, before SoFo came out.

Actually Immo provides 11 non-fire quanta, so using other-element cards in Immo :fire mono seems pretty obvious, especially when it is costly.
I think we should consider that non-Immo :fire mono.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1013999#msg1013999
« Reply #614 on: November 07, 2012, 11:58:55 pm »
By the way, I played a few more games against platinum today and I saw the same AI for the Sofos; after playing the Sofo they cannot use Accretion for two turns, rather than one.
I tested in the trainer, and the AI destroyed all three of my permanents with its four SoF played in the previous turn. I can only conclude that you were using low value permanents and the AI decided to save its uses of accretion for a bigger threat (and then got tired of waiting next turn).
I can confirm.  AI continues to use SoF next turn when it wants to.
N.B. how AI uses SoF is irrelevant to card balancing which should be based on cards abilities in a real player's hand.  This thread is large enough without going off topic to discuss AI issues, which should be in a separate thread elsewhere.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020203#msg1020203
« Reply #615 on: December 06, 2012, 10:19:20 pm »
Why not make the shard increase your creatures HP at each turn? Isn't gravity about huge creatures anyway? Something like this


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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020342#msg1020342
« Reply #616 on: December 07, 2012, 01:43:22 pm »
I played ten straight arena matches, all of which use this broken ass card. I'm quitting elements. Learn to balance your damn game ffs.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020343#msg1020343
« Reply #617 on: December 07, 2012, 01:50:42 pm »
I played ten straight arena matches, all of which use this broken ass card. I'm quitting elements. Learn to balance your damn game ffs.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020346#msg1020346
« Reply #618 on: December 07, 2012, 01:55:25 pm »
I played ten straight arena matches, all of which use this broken ass card. I'm quitting elements. Learn to balance your damn game ffs.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020347#msg1020347
« Reply #619 on: December 07, 2012, 02:03:12 pm »
I played ten straight arena matches, all of which use this broken ass card. I'm quitting elements. Learn to balance your damn game ffs.
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Is the whole game unbalanced and unplayable because of a single card?
Did one have to complain that much on a free game that is given to you for free instead of try to find solutions via polls and suggestions like all the members do?
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020348#msg1020348
« Reply #620 on: December 07, 2012, 02:12:11 pm »
Nerf SoF! it destory balance

my idea: add an extra ability for SoF: IF you have 2 or more SoF, drain 3 quanta per element from YOU.

like supernova's change,do not have many SoF and do not Only have SoF.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020467#msg1020467
« Reply #621 on: December 07, 2012, 10:41:47 pm »
My suggestions:

1) SoFo no longer gains HP from the activation of its ability, but by actually destroying something (like Otyughs and Scarabs).

2) SoFo gains HP equal to 5 times the cost of the destroyed permanent. Exceptions: Bone Wall counts as 1-cost, Pillars & Pendulums count as 8-cost.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020476#msg1020476
« Reply #622 on: December 07, 2012, 10:58:36 pm »
I played ten straight arena matches, all of which use this broken ass card. I'm quitting elements. Learn to balance your damn game ffs.
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Is the whole game unbalanced and unplayable because of a single card?
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg1020651#msg1020651
« Reply #623 on: December 08, 2012, 04:39:39 pm »
unfortunately, he is partially right. :P
e all the members do?
Indeed he is partially right, but i think that is important to give more emphasis to the "...Then all the game is unbalanced;screw the developer of this game, learn to do this..."(wich surely isn't true and show how poor of mind and negative is this guy) then highlight a thing that as much we can say it is logical grammatically correct, surely doesn't bring anything new, good, positive to the game, that's the job of a good member, not discuss on technicalities just to be in the absolute right.
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