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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg538137#msg538137
« Reply #444 on: September 01, 2012, 02:44:17 pm »
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An alternative nerf? (This helps stop its excessive use in rainbow-creature spam decks, and turns the shard into a focused PC-mechanic - also, lowering the HP threshold for the Black Hole transformation limits its usage(ironically enough)):



Also, as bjessee stated:
"So at most one permanent a turn and no attacking on the turn you do so?  Interesting."

By doing it this way as a nerf, you make a conscious, singular decision to break that permanent in half; no, you can't spam a field with Shards of Focus and obliterate everything in existence, nor will you be able to throw this in a rainbow and rush the enemy with Graboids/Shriekers, Lava Golems, Frogs, Discord/BH combos, Minor Phoenixes, etc. You either break the troubling permanent, or you simply let all your other creatures take priority.

Getting this in 4 lines is tough... but you never know. :P

This also has comparatively good synergy with gravity - you can still catapult creatures, creatures are still affected by accel.  Nice work!

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539202#msg539202
« Reply #445 on: September 05, 2012, 04:26:44 am »
Key problem it's 3 colorless explosions in one card it's way too easily spammable. I feel that a double in quanta cost would not help for it would still be playable on the activation of nova which is also a very known combo with shards. Instead the addition of a  :gravity mark would too much of a nerf and would make this card hard to use in most decks. I instead feel that it should have to wait 5 turns in order to activate again this would make the card a lot slower but at the same time restore a balance and make rainbow decks more playable.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539205#msg539205
« Reply #446 on: September 05, 2012, 04:36:37 am »
An alternative nerf?

*blah blah blah*

I hadn't seen any good nerfs that would work, so I posted one somewhere a few pages ago that I really liked, and a few other people did too, but I think this one is at least as good if not better than the one I proposed.  SoF would be pretty much just as powerful early game, but it would lose a lot of power in the late game since it would be delaying your whole field.  In the early game, you might not have anything else out, and you can activate SoF and then play a creature to partially bypass the restriction, but in the late game, delaying 5-6 creatures is going to be quite costly most of the time.

Ironically, this nerf also has synergy with voodoo dolls, since delaying your own doll will delay your opponent's weapon :p

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539211#msg539211
« Reply #447 on: September 05, 2012, 05:10:31 am »
An alternative nerf?

*blah blah blah*

I hadn't seen any good nerfs that would work, so I posted one somewhere a few pages ago that I really liked, and a few other people did too, but I think this one is at least as good if not better than the one I proposed.  SoF would be pretty much just as powerful early game, but it would lose a lot of power in the late game since it would be delaying your whole field.  In the early game, you might not have anything else out, and you can activate SoF and then play a creature to partially bypass the restriction, but in the late game, delaying 5-6 creatures is going to be quite costly most of the time.

Ironically, this nerf also has synergy with voodoo dolls, since delaying your own doll will delay your opponent's weapon :p

Except Sofo destroys your enemies weapon :P
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539469#msg539469
« Reply #448 on: September 06, 2012, 01:22:04 pm »
SoF already is powerful in early game: you can target towers and spoils your opponent game.

A simple good nerf would be:
"SoF can't be played on your first turn."

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539638#msg539638
« Reply #449 on: September 07, 2012, 12:48:16 am »
SoFo is beyond retarded ... the only positive for it is it makes Thunderstorm a bit useful ... Here's MY take on what shard of focus COULD be:



Please note ... I have 6 upped SoFos ... and wouldn't mind at all the change I've proposed here.  So many 'OK' to 'great' decks become JUNK when just ONE SoFo hits ... let alone 2, 3 or 15 ...
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539685#msg539685
« Reply #450 on: September 07, 2012, 02:11:12 am »

Early nova for one of these doubles your quanta production for the rest of the game. Probably more OP than it is now.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539686#msg539686
« Reply #451 on: September 07, 2012, 02:12:26 am »
I wouldn't mind that change either with 6 of them... Rainbow decks here I come! (that is to say, mega-broken)

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg539698#msg539698
« Reply #452 on: September 07, 2012, 03:05:41 am »
that completely changes the card.  zanz has already said that he may as well make a new card if he were to change a card so drastically.

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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg540446#msg540446
« Reply #453 on: September 09, 2012, 03:02:03 am »
SoFo is beyond retarded ... the only positive for it is it makes Thunderstorm a bit useful ... Here's MY take on what shard of focus COULD be:



Please note ... I have 6 upped SoFos ... and wouldn't mind at all the change I've proposed here.  So many 'OK' to 'great' decks become JUNK when just ONE SoFo hits ... let alone 2, 3 or 15 ...

Needs synergy with  :gravity.
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg540450#msg540450
« Reply #454 on: September 09, 2012, 03:18:04 am »
I just figured fight fire with fire ... fight retarded with retarded .... and there ya go
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Re: Shard of Focus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38644.msg540456#msg540456
« Reply #455 on: September 09, 2012, 03:58:53 am »
Skill Suggestion:

Gain 15 hp and drain 2 hp from each of your creatures to destroy a pernament. Turns into black hole when hp>45.

Extra synergy with gravity because  :gravity creatures have lots of hp.
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