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Reflective shield

Leave as is
99 (90%)
Minor nerf
4 (3.6%)
Moderate nerf
2 (1.8%)
Major nerf
0 (0%)
Remove Entirely
5 (4.5%)

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Re: Reflective Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40908.msg516719#msg516719
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2012, 01:25:14 pm »
Quote from: yaladilae on June 28, 2012, 11:21:23 am
i don't understand, its been over a month, why is this overpowered piece of trash shield not removed yet?
I hope you're joking.

If you aren't, please make a shardless deck with this that is good enough in competitive PVP, in which there is a good reason to use this shield over any other shield and where it's overpoweredness can be exploited.
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Re: Reflective Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40908.msg516758#msg516758
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2012, 04:40:22 pm »
Quote from: Chapuz on June 30, 2012, 12:34:37 pm
Quote from: esran on June 26, 2012, 05:51:58 pm
i think that reflective shields ability to remove bolt stall decks is a good thing. why cant bolt stall decks just add creatures? a deck that only revolves around bolts deserves to be counterable. frankly reflective shield is pretty weak.
berf idea:increase unupped cost by 1. give it one damage resistance. remove untargetable. add a bonewall style PC resist where unupped takes 2 PCs to remove and upped takes 3. or you could give it more counters like 4/8 and have resisting spell damage also remove a counter.
this needs more balancing but i think if someone helped me balance it like that it would make reflective shield a better card.
That berf would completely change many decks that use reflective shield. I like PC protection, but I like reflective shield's immateriality too.
I think you underestimate the degree of card disadvantage involved in destroying a PC protected shield. In most cases it will act like immaterial.
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Re: Reflective Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40908.msg517278#msg517278
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2012, 10:05:00 am »
Quote from: rosutosefi on June 30, 2012, 01:25:14 pm
Quote from: yaladilae on June 28, 2012, 11:21:23 am
i don't understand, its been over a month, why is this overpowered piece of trash shield not removed yet?
I hope you're joking.

If you aren't, please make a shardless deck with this that is good enough in competitive PVP, in which there is a good reason to use this shield over any other shield and where it's overpoweredness can be exploited.

Why would i be joking, this is such a serious matter!! I am very serious, trust me on this!!!
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Re: Reflective Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40908.msg517295#msg517295
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2012, 10:55:09 am »
*smells silliness*

BTW, if reflective shield gets bonewall-style protection, it will still stop bolt decks once it hits the field, and self-bolting will still exist. +DR and return damage would be nice. No self bolting and bolt/UG decks still have a chance.
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Re: Reflective Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40908.msg517337#msg517337
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2012, 03:03:52 pm »
+DR and return damage is an option on the poll in my buff thread.
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