[Official] Rage Potion | Rage Elixir

[OldTrees]

If you want my humble (but not always correct) opinion, Rage Potion/Elixir is okay as it is. Mono- decks have way too weak creatures (in terms of health) in order to use it as a buff. Colossal Dragons were always viewed as the worst dragon of the game, so buffing it with Rage Potion/Elixir gives it a purpose as a strong card. About the low cost of 3 , let's look into other cards too. 3 or 2 for a Heal / Improved Heal which restores 20 hp right away, 4 or 3 for a Steal / Improved Steal which NOT just destoys a permanet but it uses it against its former owner, etc. If we use that point of view, we may end up in nerfing a lot of other cards too.

Yeah, it's fine as a buff card, but that's not what's at issue here.  It's the (almost exclusive) use as a creature-killer that people have a problem with.  The change proposed in the OP is one I would support. (subtract HP, add attack, never go below 1 HP) The "make it like a spark" proposal sounds okay too.  Fire already has 2 other ways to kill low-hp creatures, let its buff card be used as a buff card.

Wouldn't the "subtract HP, add attack, never go below 1 HP" change make it a superior buffing card in mono-fire? I mean, a Rage Potion/Elixir would turn a Seraph into a 15/1 or 16/1 creature without killing it, a Crimson Dragon into a 17/1 or 18/1 creature without killing it etc. Wouldn't this make  even more powerful as a mono (especially in unupped PvP1)?

He was suggesting that the creature take up to 5 damage but never reduce below 1hp. Then it would increase the attack by the hp lost.
Aka
no effect on 1hp creatures
+1|-1 on 2hp creatures
+2|-2 on 3hp creatures
+3|-3 on 4hp creatures
+4|-4 on 5hp creatures
+5|-5 on 6+ hp creatures

[Pwnator]

I mostly rely on RagePots to kill my own Golems/Phoenixes if they're antimattered. Its lethality is what makes it great.

[Captain Scibra]

Lost track of this thread...

But OT, loss of lethality does not cause it to lose its entirety as a CC card.  As mentioned, it just takes an extra step when the HP would be low enough, and most elements can't take advantage of that extra chance easily.

[OldTrees]

Lost track of this thread...

But OT, loss of lethality does not cause it to lose its entirety as a CC card.  As mentioned, it just takes an extra step when the HP would be low enough, and most elements can't take advantage of that extra chance easily.

Indeed. I am criticizing the intent not the action.
If I were to criticize the action I would say: Your suggestion would be turning a lethal CC (Fire's motif) into a supporting CC. (This is not a strong critique but does support my critique of the intent.)

The best suggestion I saw was have the creature survive with 0hp until its turn. I feel that fire does not need its CC reduced, however I do think a differentiation between -X hp and X damage would be useful.

[ARTHANASIOS]

He was suggesting that the creature take up to 5 damage but never reduce below 1hp. Then it would increase the attack by the hp lost.
Aka
no effect on 1hp creatures
+1|-1 on 2hp creatures
+2|-2 on 3hp creatures
+3|-3 on 4hp creatures
+4|-4 on 5hp creatures
+5|-5 on 6+ hp creatures

I agree with this, I would like to change my vote from 1st to 2nd option! 

[Korugar]

I'd simply say drop the unupped to +4|-4 and the upped to +5|-5.

[Captain Scibra]

The best suggestion I saw was have the creature survive with 0hp until its turn. I feel that fire does not need its CC reduced, however I do think a differentiation between -X hp and X damage would be useful.

Added this to poll.