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[Official] Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg312150#msg312150
« on: April 15, 2011, 05:45:56 am »


So I was trying to get something done on the stall study when I stumbled across this little oddity: a deck using nothing but a purple nymph or two can beat almost any rush deck out there.

This card is so powerful I can't even test it. I was kinda surprised there wasn't a topic for it already.

Any thoughts?
« Last Edit: May 06, 2015, 01:31:26 am by Treldon »

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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg312152#msg312152
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 05:57:06 am »
That's weird that it tests as so OP. I've played quite a few different decks with my two purple nymphs and never found them to be OP. If you can actually draw them in time, have the quanta to play them in time, and then your opponent has no CC, then they rock. They're certainly one of the best nymphs, and yet if they were any weaker I don't think they'd be able to compete with regular AM.


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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg312154#msg312154
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 06:04:54 am »
The decks the OP used to test it were 24-29 Pillars|Towers and 1-6 Nymphs for a total of 30 cards.
However a pure rush deck is not flexible and thus cannot be expected to be able to beat every deck (see also Ray of Light Hope vs Fire Shield).
When CC is added to a deck Purple Nymph becomes weaker. Is it weaken enough to be balanced?
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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg312188#msg312188
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 09:54:45 am »
increase summon cost9 not enough? All Nymphs cost 8-9.
increase ability cost4 not not enough? All Nymphs have ability cost 1-4.
lower statsDo we really want to buff this greatly against Permafrost Shield and nerf this massively against Fire Shield?
it'll never balance unless
the ability is reworked
Nah. The ability on a stick is strong, but all it does is just prevents you from losing - Antimatter doesn't win you games alone.
So No nerf!

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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319040#msg319040
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 08:36:39 pm »
Turquoise Nymph does Quint for 4, not nearly as good as Purple Nymph doing Antimatter for 4. Needs a nerf, definitely, Antimatter costs 8 or 6 while Quint costs only about 3

Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319054#msg319054
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 08:43:39 pm »
Turquoise Nymph does Quint for 4, not nearly as good as Purple Nymph doing Antimatter for 4. Needs a nerf, definitely, Antimatter costs 8 or 6 while Quint costs only about 3
agreed, but instead of nerfing purple nymph, let's buff turquoise nymph...
we all know it's massively UP even after its recent buff...

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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319079#msg319079
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 09:01:16 pm »
Wait, actually, Quint is costing 3, but anyways, Anubis would be much better. Even with the high attack, you could get 2 Phase Recluses down from the same cost, however for the Purple Nymph, even though it's offense is terrible, it can pretty much stop any kind of army, if you're using Purple Nymph, you'd probably have an excess amount of Entropy Quantum anyways.

Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319085#msg319085
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 09:05:50 pm »
Wait, actually, Quint is costing 3, but anyways, Anubis would be much better. Even with the high attack, you could get 2 Phase Recluses down from the same cost, however for the Purple Nymph, even though it's offense is terrible, it can pretty much stop any kind of army, if you're using Purple Nymph, you'd probably have an excess amount of Entropy Quantum anyways.
again, let's not make this about purple nymph being OP, it's turquoise being UP...
purple nymphs are over rated... despite being arguably the best nymph

1 hp, 2 upgraded, just about any CC of any sort will kill it before it does anything significant.... it requires quint, which is too slow to stop most rushes

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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319087#msg319087
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 09:07:00 pm »
It dies to almost any damage based CC, and has no resistance whatsoever to non-damage based CC or CC shields.
If they have any damage based CC whatsoever, the nymph is a waste of 9 quanta for just 3 damage. If they have non-damage based CC, it's probably still a waste because antimatter could be faster.
It's a terrible card against stalls or any rush with CC.
I could only see it useful against a rush without CC, which is not common in PvP. If you somehow face one of those, I suppose it could be a strong card. Maybe.
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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319089#msg319089
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 09:09:19 pm »
in the end, almost all nymphs suck... except for long and drawn-out games you see once in a billion years
or FG fights, but that's a different story (nymphomania rocks for FG btw)

Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319536#msg319536
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 01:43:50 pm »
It does seem sort of stupid that antimatter itself has such a high cost while the purple nymph gets away with 4, as well as turquoise having a higher cost than its potion ._.

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Re: Purple Nymph | Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24475.msg319599#msg319599
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 03:51:45 pm »
increase summon cost9 not enough? All Nymphs cost 8-9.
increase ability cost4 not not enough? All Nymphs have ability cost 1-4.
lower statsDo we really want to buff this greatly against Permafrost Shield and nerf this massively against Fire Shield?
it'll never balance unless
the ability is reworked
Nah. The ability on a stick is strong, but all it does is just prevents you from losing - Antimatter doesn't win you games alone.
So No nerf!
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