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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg237434#msg237434
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2010, 08:49:32 pm »
Quick question, is this deck (or some variant on it) currently dominating in general pvp?
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Because I honestly can't see that deck going all that far outside the constrained rules of the war.

I should also point out that it's a little misleading to describe that deck as "only one loss the entire war". The deck in question was not made until round 5, and it was not used in every round thereafter. Also the 1 loss you report is a best out of three matchup. The deck lost considerably more than just a single game, which is what you make it sound like.

Also of note is that by round 5 team :entropy already had the a sizable advantage over the other teams when it came to deckbuilding. They seized an early lead in vault size, so I really think a large portion of why that deck was so feared was that the other teams simply didn't have a counter to it in their vaults by that point.

Finally, earlier variations of that deck which did not use pandemonium were still successful decks in the war, so pandemonium, while it might work well in that deck, was not the sole reason the deck was so scary.

Once again though, I'm not saying that there are no good decks that use this card. What I'm saying is that those decks are not unduly powerful compared to other well made decks.

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I think the main reason this card sometimes seems so powerful is the same reason dusk shield or fog sometimes seem so strong--it's random. Thus you tend to notice when it totally screws you over, but not when your opponent plays 3 in a row and they all lobotomize your dragon and gp your rustler.


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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg253977#msg253977
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2011, 06:24:36 am »
good lord this needs a nerf, i keep playing lvl threes who manage to kill four fireflys and freeze an ffq while also granting destroy to their voodoo doll

how is that fair?!
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg253981#msg253981
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 06:30:10 am »
good lord this needs a nerf, i keep playing lvl threes who manage to kill four fireflys and freeze an ffq while also granting destroy to their voodoo doll

how is that fair?!
The destroy effect is a separate card.

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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg253996#msg253996
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2011, 07:11:33 am »
good lord this needs a nerf, i keep playing lvl threes who manage to kill four fireflys and freeze an ffq while also granting destroy to their voodoo doll

how is that fair?!
The destroy effect is a separate card.
well it gave it destroy
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg254055#msg254055
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2011, 10:43:20 am »


no, pandemonium can't give destroy, they used butterfly effect.
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg254078#msg254078
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2011, 01:02:20 pm »

no, pandemonium can't give destroy, they used butterfly effect.

then there was a glitch because he definitely got destroy
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg254157#msg254157
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2011, 02:48:42 pm »

no, pandemonium can't give destroy, they used butterfly effect.

then there was a glitch because he definitely got destroy
The glitch is called visual problems. There have been no reports of this whatsoever, EVER. Anyways, can we get back on topic?
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg270202#msg270202
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 07:06:01 pm »
i think the TU possiblity is pretty ****ed up. I mean the purpose of this card is to control

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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg270208#msg270208
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 07:14:28 pm »
i think the TU possiblity is pretty ****ed up. I mean the purpose of this card is to control
The purpose is chaos and it succeeds at that.

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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg280801#msg280801
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2011, 05:52:37 am »
this card managed to lobo my three phoenixes and then with a second one kill them, rooooar i hate it!!!!  >:D
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg280803#msg280803
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2011, 05:53:52 am »
this card managed to lobo my three phoenixes and then with a second one kill them, rooooar i hate it!!!!  >:D
originally, didn't want too big of a nerf
killed 3 phoenixes?
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Re: Pandemonium (unupgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18515.msg280805#msg280805
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2011, 05:56:25 am »
this card managed to lobo my three phoenixes and then with a second one kill them, rooooar i hate it!!!!  >:D
originally, didn't want too big of a nerf
killed 3 phoenixes?
WOAR!!!
my battalion of 48 phoenixes shall avenge their brothers' deaths!!!
Oh my god, are you eternal pheonix?!?!  :o
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