[Official] Armagio | Elite Armagio

[Naesala]

I never said it was just stats and abilities, nor versatility nor utility. I said your argument is solely that Dragon isnt good enough in comparison. Unless a card is inherently overpowered, nerfing makes the game weaker, where as buffing a weak card to the level of the others makes it stronger. Armagio is far from inherently OP

[valiance]

Your argument for nerfing Armagio is that it, and other cards, make dragon look weak. Why not buff dragon, in fact, I believe there is already a post suggesting a buff to the dragon. Next to life, Gravity is the weakest element. None of its cards should be nerfed except maybe blackhole, but I disagree with nerfing it either.

^this

Anyway, I dont think there is a problem with armagio being the go-to card for high-HP synergy. It wouldnt be very practical to use dragons instead, since they have double the costs. Without a cheap (although Armagio isnt exactly cheap) high-HP fodder, strategies that revolve around it wouldnt work as well.

[dragonsdemesne]

I'm surprised to see this thread even exist, since Armagio is barely usable, even in upped form.  The only time I can ever recall using them is in extremely limited tournament scenarios, and even there they sucked.

[Kardo]

As others have said, I believe Armagio is fine as is and doesn't need a buff.

However if you wanted to keep the theme of damage absorption while reducing the HP->Damage effect, you could give Armagio a passive ability, call it "Armored," which reduces all received damage to 1. Now with only 5 HP it will survive 5 attacks. Buffs increase the damage you can absorb considerably and Angels would be seriously awesome with it. Counters would include Adrenaline, Reverse Time and Momentum. This way it would be more useful as a damage absorbing creature, but less useful for Catapult or Overdrive.

[furballdn]

Your argument for nerfing Armagio is that it, and other cards, make dragon look weak. Why not buff dragon, in fact, I believe there is already a post suggesting a buff to the dragon. Next to life, Gravity is the weakest element. None of its cards should be nerfed except maybe blackhole, but I disagree with nerfing it either.

I'd have to disagree. Gravity has excellent offense (chargers) as well as defense (armagios), along with ways to bypass shields (momentum). Life really has no control whatsoever, while Gravity at least has good creatures, moderate permanent control, creature control, and denial.

[Naesala]

Your argument for nerfing Armagio is that it, and other cards, make dragon look weak. Why not buff dragon, in fact, I believe there is already a post suggesting a buff to the dragon. Next to life, Gravity is the weakest element. None of its cards should be nerfed except maybe blackhole, but I disagree with nerfing it either.

I'd have to disagree. Gravity has excellent offense (chargers) as well as defense (armagios), along with ways to bypass shields (momentum). Life really has no control whatsoever, while Gravity at least has good creatures, moderate permanent control, creature control, and denial.

Thats why I said next to life. Life is weakest, next is gravity.

[killsdazombies]

Life got third place in war 2. Just saying. As the Armagio, i say its fine as is, just buff dragon.

[Chapuz]

Dragon>Armagio when not talking about Catapult and Chimera, and maybe Overdrive, assuming almost no one use dragons as Gravity Pull bait. Armagio is a expensive for having just 2 attack.

[furballdn]

Dragon>Armagio when not talking about Catapult and Chimera, and maybe Overdrive, assuming almost no one use dragons as Gravity Pull bait. Armagio is a expensive for having just 2 attack.

Overdrive is the only thing that makes armagios useful besides them also being able to function as a 30hp meatshield. If you pay 5 for just a two attack creature, you're doing something wrong.

[Terroking]

Although some people have already suggested this, the real meaning of this thread is here, the Buff Colossal Dragon thread.

Because in all honesty Armagio is fine. It's the cheapest way to get big-hp effects like a lot of damage from Catas or extra hp from GPull (Which it conveniently provides itself). The simple fact is that dragons are the problem here, not the Armagios. Nerfing a card already arguably underpowered so that it's on-par with a card almost everyone can agree is bad is simply not a good idea.

[Captain Scibra]

Although some people have already suggested this, the real meaning of this thread is here, the Buff Colossal Dragon thread.

Because in all honesty Armagio is fine. It's the cheapest way to get big-hp effects like a lot of damage from Catas or extra hp from GPull (Which it conveniently provides itself). The simple fact is that dragons are the problem here, not the Armagios. Nerfing a card already arguably underpowered so that it's on-par with a card almost everyone can agree is bad is simply not a good idea.

Mostly, the solution only removes it as an effective attack creature with Overdrive.  I figured that it would require GP to activate for it to get an hp boost, and also get a "Reinforce" skill to add an amount of HP per turn to back it up (probably 5, maybe 10 if that isn't enough.).