[Official] Pandemonium | Pandemonium

[TheIdioticIdiot]

this card managed to lobo my three phoenixes and then with a second one kill them, rooooar i hate it!!!! 

originally, didn't want too big of a nerf
killed 3 phoenixes?
WOAR!!!
my battalion of 48 phoenixes shall avenge their brothers' deaths!!!

Oh my god, are you eternal pheonix?!?! 

that's nap...
I am the incarnation of EP

[rowcla]

this card managed to lobo my three phoenixes and then with a second one kill them, rooooar i hate it!!!! 

originally, didn't want too big of a nerf
killed 3 phoenixes?
WOAR!!!
my battalion of 48 phoenixes shall avenge their brothers' deaths!!!

Oh my god, are you eternal pheonix?!?! 

that's nap...
I am the incarnation of EP

i thought EP was 'eternal' ???

or is that just his pheonixes?

[tiebearius]

Well, In my bonewall/boneyard/afatoxin/pandy dec I often end up with 50+ bonewalls

And really is one of the few decs that pandy does well. But if you don't get the wall/yard out it still can save the day with affatoxin.

nerfed? no. I think it does and stays in the enthropy themes of things.

[Blazing Moonwalker]

yes, unupped is too cheap. 3 to potentially hit harder than a rain of fire. I think it need a 1 cost increase.

[Time_lord_victorius]

pandemonium is WAAYY to powerful a card for soo cheap. i say +2 to cost because...well, it's OP. i mean seriously, a card that can remove quintescence should cost more than that. quintescence cost 4 to play while pandemonium cost 3 to remove it? is that saying (in a subtle way) that entropy is more powerful than aether and can do way more for slightly less? yeah, that what i see. plus, its very annoying for half of the decks out there. i also suggest that there is a percentage of chances that invisibility is removed.

[Blazing Moonwalker]

# i mean seriously, a card that can remove quintescence should cost more than that. quintescence cost 4 to play while pandemonium cost 3 to remove it?

No mass effect card (except Nightfall/Eclipse) can touch a creature with quintessence on (or a burrowed one either)

[tiebearius]

# i mean seriously, a card that can remove quintescence should cost more than that. quintescence cost 4 to play while pandemonium cost 3 to remove it?

No mass effect card (except Nightfall/Eclipse) can touch a creature with quintessence on (or a burrowed one either)

Actually, a "remove Immaterial" Card would not be a bad idea. And yes it should remove from a SINGLE target, But target should be either creature or permanent.

[Falcon4415]

pandemonium is WAAYY to powerful a card for soo cheap. i say +2 to cost because...well, it's OP. i mean seriously, a card that can remove quintescence should cost more than that. quintescence cost 4 to play while pandemonium cost 3 to remove it? is that saying (in a subtle way) that entropy is more powerful than aether and can do way more for slightly less? yeah, that what i see. plus, its very annoying for half of the decks out there. i also suggest that there is a percentage of chances that invisibility is removed.

It's good to know that both of your suggestions have already been taken into consideration by Zanz (he did so before you suggested it ): Pandemonium cannot affect quinted creatures, and it has a 100% chance of removing invisibility. Happy now?
You should try to read what cards do before commenting.

[Time_lord_victorius]

i thought by invisibility it meant immaterial

[Blazing Moonwalker]

i thought by invisibility it meant immaterial

Invisible means it's hiding under a cloak. Pandemonium, Plague and Fire Storm destroy cloaks.

[Time_lord_victorius]

they do? i thought only deflagration|explosion and pulvy took care of permanents.

[Blazing Moonwalker]

they do? i thought only deflagration|explosion and pulvy took care of permanents.

I think you need to do a little more research, as I've only been around a week, and seem to know alot more than you.

Steal, Butterfly Effect, Shockwave(Weapon only), Voodoo Dolls (Weapon Only), Ice Lance (Weapon Only), Earthuake(Pillar/Pendulum Only), Explosion, Creature Field Control (Cloak only) and Pulverizer are all forms of Permanent Control.

If you have anything else to discuss, keep it on topic, or PM me.