[Official] Hope | Hope

[icecoldbro]

every patch this same topic appears
it doesnt need a nerf

[GG]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10469.0.html

You should've at least checked if there's a topic already there.

[xdude]

Let me reiterate my point...

http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/overpowered/

[Ignion]

I see both sides of this argument. HOWEVER, there's no doubt this card is a bit too ridiculous. The effect itself is fine, but it can't be destroyed? Now, com' on. That makes it rather unfair and makes the game play very lousy.

In my opinion, there are way too many cards that can't be destroyed in this game. We need to limit such cards, or it takes away the whole point of card games like this, which is the "exchange of moves and techniques." OOPS, SORRY, BUT YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS CARD isn't not going to make a good game. It only makes one of the players feel superior or egoistic. A game is meant for "two people" to enjoy.

So, I say keep the effect, but take away its immaterial status.

[omegareaper7]

I see both sides of this argument. HOWEVER, there's no doubt this card is a bit too ridiculous. The effect itself is fine, but it can't be destroyed? Now, com' on. That makes it rather unfair and makes the game play very lousy.

In my opinion, there are way too many cards that can't be destroyed in this game. We need to limit such cards, or it takes away the whole point of card games like this, which is the "exchange of moves and techniques." OOPS, SORRY, BUT YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS CARD isn't not going to make a good game. It only makes one of the players feel superior or egoistic. A game is meant for "two people" to enjoy.

So, I say keep the effect, but take away its immaterial status.

taking away the immaterial status would very possibly make it lights worst shield, mass CC such as thunder storm and fire storm already rune this enough.

[ddevans96]

I see both sides of this argument. HOWEVER, there's no doubt this card is a bit too ridiculous. The effect itself is fine, but it can't be destroyed? Now, com' on. That makes it rather unfair and makes the game play very lousy.

In my opinion, there are way too many cards that can't be destroyed in this game. We need to limit such cards, or it takes away the whole point of card games like this, which is the "exchange of moves and techniques." OOPS, SORRY, BUT YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS CARD isn't not going to make a good game. It only makes one of the players feel superior or egoistic. A game is meant for "two people" to enjoy.

So, I say keep the effect, but take away its immaterial status.

Whereas most shields are countered by permanent control, this one is countered by mass control. If we took that away it would become very weak.

[Dm]

I see both sides of this argument. HOWEVER, there's no doubt this card is a bit too ridiculous. The effect itself is fine, but it can't be destroyed? Now, com' on. That makes it rather unfair and makes the game play very lousy.

In my opinion, there are way too many cards that can't be destroyed in this game. We need to limit such cards, or it takes away the whole point of card games like this, which is the "exchange of moves and techniques." OOPS, SORRY, BUT YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS CARD isn't not going to make a good game. It only makes one of the players feel superior or egoistic. A game is meant for "two people" to enjoy.

So, I say keep the effect, but take away its immaterial status.

In depths, the only thing that is permanent would be Hope, Jade and Reflective. The rest is absolutely target-able. If that was such case we could ban PA too, because it grants the immaterial status. Why not just ban phase dragons? To every card there is a counter. To Jade, high attacking critters. Reflective? Does nothing, only if you pretend to bolt him to death. Hope? Mass CC.

[TheOnlyNewb]

Hope is the OP card. Fractal is meant to be that way. Hope is a shield that can be increased resistance! Worst idea ever. If hope wasn't in the game, we could still all live with it.

[ArtCrusade]

Thunderstorm
Rain of Fire
Pandemonium
Otyugh
Inundation
Thorn Carapace
Skull Buckler

There are so many things you can counter Hope with, why bother nerfing it?

[Siweisun]

This does not need a nerf. It takes a ong time to set up and is easy to get rid of with rain of fire or other mass CC.

[kitty45]

NO Nerf needed If you want to stop this card you rain of fire or fire shield

[ztormtrooper]

lets see what can counter this
fire shield
thorn carapace
parasite's poison
lobtomizer on ray of light
rain of fire
fire bolt
ice bolt
thunder storm
lightning
reverse time
titan or momentum(i think)
etc. a lot huh nerf needed? no not at all just like dimensional shield, it can be considered op because you have nothing to counter it because you have no cc or pc