[Official] Hope | Hope

[genraenera]

There is no need for a nerf on Hope.  It is very easily countered, easily outrushed, and requires large amounts of either aether or life and air to work effectively.
The arguments here to nerf it are just the same as at black hole, fractal, and many others; namely people crying that "my one deck got wrecked by it, and there was NO WAY for me to counter it with my current deck, therefore it is overpowered."  If your deck gets wrecked by a certain card or combo so much, CHANGE YOUR DECK.  It's really that simple.

Sorry to be so blunt about it, it's just these "card X is OP" threads get under my skin..

[glowing ice]

hope is fine. cus with all my decks i wipe it out no prob. rain of fire..  love this card.

[Xrbeta]

Its annoying in pvp but i dont mind when the ai uses it cause they usually replace with another shield lol.

[Dm]

Hope isn't the problem, fractal is. Fractal is slightly OP, But I wouldn't change that card either. Back to topic, It can be controlled by -

Rain of Fire, Fireballs (hit opponent directly), quantum denial (no aether, no fractal, no decent hope shield. No light, no hope shield.. again.), discord, pillar-killing careds (that count as quantum denial, no?) Fire Shield, (Kills most of the RoL's, most used in this crazy hope/fractal deck.) permafrost, turtle shield, and poison.

So no, I think it's pretty balanced depending on the deck you have.

[TheOnlyNewb]

I think most people asked for no nerf because it's the base of a fg killing deck but oh well  .
Personally, i thin it shouldn't be immaterial so it isn't as deadly to most decks.

[918273645]

Although hope is powerful, one mass CC card can take down the entire deck (rol hope), and there are more than one of those. Plague, retrovirus, firestorm, fire shield, thorn carapace and pandemonium all undermine the strategy of the deck. This shield is powerful, but its source of power comes from 1/1 creatures which are easy to kill

+ thunderstorm, Flood (partially)

[Kazawrath]

Hope is easy to counter just play a fire shield. but to improve it i would use a white nymph and some cards that can withstand at least one firestorm who have no abitities.

[grindpower]

It is way too powerful in RoL/Hope decks. Losing it's immaterial would give other decks with cards such as Steal and Deflagration a chance.

[Daytripper]

I don't think many people will be with you here. For hope to work you need to spam the deck with light creatures. That takes a lot of time. One Mass CC and everything is gone. Most ROL decks have no room for much else either. It can be countered, and anything besides a rush deck has some CC usually.

[ddevans96]

The major difference between hope and other shields is that other shields are countered with perm control. Hope is countered with mass control.

[zse]

Yeah! That card combo is just SOOOO OP!!!

You can only use Thunderstorm, Plague, Rain of Fire, Retrovirus, Fire Shield, Thorn Carapace, Momentum, / Bolt, Drain Life, Poison... to counter that. Surely a combo that strong needs to be nerfed ASAP!

[Glitch]

I disagree.  As more mass CC gets added, this will get nerfed.