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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012924#msg1012924
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 02:04:13 pm »
I just think GotP should only do 5 damage unupped and 7 damage unupped if it's discarded.
10 is just too much, like a 1 hit from a regular dragon.

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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012925#msg1012925
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 02:19:02 pm »
It seems like you are changing GotP just for the sake of changing GotP.  Is there any reason behind it?

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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012934#msg1012934
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 02:59:04 pm »
The change is fine, if I understand it correctly, but GotP isn't too prevalent or too uncommon in the meta (arena at least). No change is needed.
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012938#msg1012938
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 03:18:34 pm »
The change is fine, if I understand it correctly, but GotP isn't too prevalent or too uncommon in the meta (arena at least). No change is needed.
You can't base the needing of a change on the fact that a card is used too much or it isn't, a card must be balanced and with a logic mechanic even if it is the most/less used card of the game.
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012961#msg1012961
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2012, 06:21:32 pm »
The change is fine, if I understand it correctly, but GotP isn't too prevalent or too uncommon in the meta (arena at least). No change is needed.
You can't base the needing of a change on the fact that a card is used too much or it isn't, a card must be balanced and with a logic mechanic even if it is the most/less used card of the game.
On time:
As i wrote before, i think time have this big step between Scarab and GotP in terms of costs and statistics, i would like to see a card in between the two as i suggested in card ideas section with "Ra".
On the card:
GotP is fine as is, balanced, useful, strong enought to justify its cost and with a unique ability wich everyone approve methink.

If the balance isn't right the popularity of the card probably won't be balanced either.
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012965#msg1012965
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2012, 06:29:22 pm »
The change is fine, if I understand it correctly, but GotP isn't too prevalent or too uncommon in the meta (arena at least). No change is needed.
You can't base the needing of a change on the fact that a card is used too much or it isn't, a card must be balanced and with a logic mechanic even if it is the most/less used card of the game.
On time:
As i wrote before, i think time have this big step between Scarab and GotP in terms of costs and statistics, i would like to see a card in between the two as i suggested in card ideas section with "Ra".
On the card:
GotP is fine as is, balanced, useful, strong enought to justify its cost and with a unique ability wich everyone approve methink.

If the balance isn't right the popularity of the card probably won't be balanced either.
zorry, i read as you were saying that the popularity of a card was the principal factor in the judgement of a balance card, my bad.
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1012972#msg1012972
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2012, 06:39:40 pm »
The change is fine, if I understand it correctly, but GotP isn't too prevalent or too uncommon in the meta (arena at least). No change is needed.
You can't base the needing of a change on the fact that a card is used too much or it isn't, a card must be balanced and with a logic mechanic even if it is the most/less used card of the game.
On time:
As i wrote before, i think time have this big step between Scarab and GotP in terms of costs and statistics, i would like to see a card in between the two as i suggested in card ideas section with "Ra".
On the card:
GotP is fine as is, balanced, useful, strong enought to justify its cost and with a unique ability wich everyone approve methink.

If the balance isn't right the popularity of the card probably won't be balanced either.
zorry, i read as you were saying that the popularity of a card was the principal factor in the judgement of a balance card, my bad.
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1013078#msg1013078
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2012, 10:54:26 pm »
Underuse/Overuse is a symptom of 1 of 3 causes:
Identifying the imbalance of an imbalanced card.
Misreading the balance of a balanced card.
Playstyle scale of the card (Niche to Staple).
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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1013084#msg1013084
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 11:34:05 pm »
Underuse/Overuse is a symptom of 1 of 3 causes:
Identifying the imbalance of an imbalanced card.
Misreading the balance of a balanced card.
Playstyle scale of the card (Niche to Staple).

I would submit that an overpowered card could also be read as an underpowered card, and thus the second criterion does not apply only to balanced cards.

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Re: Ghost of the Past | Ghost of the Past https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1013094#msg1013094
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2012, 01:02:03 am »
Underuse/Overuse is a symptom of 1 of 3 causes:
Identifying the imbalance of an imbalanced card.
Misreading the balance of a balanced card. Or extremely misreading the imbalance of an imbalanced card.
Playstyle scale of the card (Niche to Staple).

I would submit that an overpowered card could also be read as an underpowered card, and thus the second criterion does not apply only to balanced cards.
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Nerf Ghost of the past! (I know there is a topic already, didnt like it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1115256#msg1115256
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2013, 12:07:32 am »
I would like there to be options: Lower obsession's attack Lower upgraded ghost of the pasts attack lower ghost of the pasts attack. Increase cost and dont nerf this card plz.
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Re: Nerf Ghost of the past! (I know there is a topic already, didnt like it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43133.msg1115263#msg1115263
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2013, 12:34:25 am »
Please explain why you think GotP needs nerfing, and creating a new thread "because you don't like the other" is bad form.
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