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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg147002#msg147002
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2010, 08:41:38 pm »
The skill of the weapon creature is the same skill of the weapon permanent.  MG has the Immaterial skill which means when it is summoned it gains the immortal status effect.  It doesn't take Enchant Artifact with it, in fact you can't cast Enchant Artifact on it.  If the discussion is about transferring status effects from permanent to creature then leave MG out of it.

If you feel status effects should affect the weapon and not the slot, then know that a frozen or delayed weapon could be replaced with another weapon to remove the status effects--a slight nerf to Voodoo Doll.
Didn't think of it that way, thought more that if people want the good stuff (protect artifact) copied to their animated weapon, the bad stuff (delay/frozen) should be copied, too.
To in fact, buff voodoo doll to not let animating a weapon let you get rid of the freeze/delay (so the slot's debuff is copied to the creature).

But just as an option, honestly, I have no problem with animate weapon the way it is. Just don't use PA if you want to animate it  :)
It turns into a creature, so it makes sense that if you to buff the resulting creature, do so (quintessence).

Just trying to avoid the don't let morning glory be animated option. Since that's a nerf morning glory does not deserve.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg147024#msg147024
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2010, 09:27:46 pm »
Actually, looking at your explanation, you may have just proved our point.

Animate weapon destroys your weapon and plays it's matching creature card.

Morning glory says it cannot be destroyed or stolen.

Animate weapon shouldn't be able to work on morning glory.
Morning Glory isn't destroyed when it's flown. It is transformed into a creature. As for why you're able to target it, it's because you, the Elemental, are holding the sword in your hand! If it's really "immaterial", then you shouldn't even be able to wield it. I think "indestructible" is a better word.
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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg147052#msg147052
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2010, 10:33:17 pm »
Actually, looking at your explanation, you may have just proved our point.

Animate weapon destroys your weapon and plays it's matching creature card.

Morning glory says it cannot be destroyed or stolen.

Animate weapon shouldn't be able to work on morning glory.
Morning Glory isn't destroyed when it's flown. It is transformed into a creature. As for why you're able to target it, it's because you, the Elemental, are holding the sword in your hand! If it's really "immaterial", then you shouldn't even be able to wield it. I think "indestructible" is a better word.
I think Gl1tch´s conclusion misses something:
The source code of "Animate Morning Star/Glory"would be:
#1: Destroy Morning Star
#2: Put the creature version on the field.

That´s technically a destruction.
But in the player´s view it´s definitely a transformation and no destruction. So the text on Morning Star makes sense.
(I assume that a creature slot is empty)
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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg147930#msg147930
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2010, 11:54:41 am »
Just to point out I'm quite sure that the question at the top is biased.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg147941#msg147941
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2010, 12:52:12 pm »
Just to point out I'm quite sure that the question at the top is biased.
Biased Why?

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg148027#msg148027
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2010, 05:18:44 pm »
Just to point out I'm quite sure that the question at the top is biased.
Biased Why?
Should Flying|Animate Weapon have to target the weapon (and not the slot), like most things in elements?

Now that you mention it, it  does seem somewhat biased.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg148714#msg148714
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2010, 10:40:20 pm »
Just to point out I'm quite sure that the question at the top is biased.
Biased Why?
Should Flying|Animate Weapon have to target the weapon (and not the slot), like most things in elements?

Now that you mention it, it  does seem somewhat biased.
That's exactly what I was on about.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg148757#msg148757
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2010, 12:07:09 am »
...no.

Not at all.

I just don't understand why animate weapon is the only card in the game that can target untargetable things.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg148912#msg148912
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2010, 05:03:28 am »
I just don't understand why animate weapon is the only card in the game that can target untargetable things.
When I see the word target I think of the mechanic that has you pick a target from a group of highlighted objects and gives you the option to cancel if you don't want to continue:  Animate Weapon does not do this.

If you are using the word target as a synonym for affect, then Animate Weapon is not the only card that can do so.  Voodoo Doll, Chimera, and the mere playing of shields and weapons can affect untargetable things.

I am not familiar with another use of the word target in relation to Elements.

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Re: Flying weapon | Animate weapon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11861.msg148914#msg148914
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2010, 05:05:49 am »
my answer to the question in the poll is actually quite simple:
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