[Official] Eternity | Eternity

[oopogo]

The fact that this card alone can break a creature based deck is really offputting.

In addition to wiping creatures off the field, it also steals your next draw from you. Nothing else even compares to this.

Either give the draw + the creature back or change the weapon...this thing is by far the most powerful weapon in this game.

[omegareaper7]

The fact that this card alone can break a creature based deck is really offputting.

In addition to wiping creatures off the field, it also steals your next draw from you. Nothing else even compares to this.

Either give the draw + the creature back or change the weapon...this thing is by far the most powerful weapon in this game.

Play with and against first. There are plenty of decks that completely walk all over it. Likewise, there are lots of options for pc or immortal creatures.

[Poker Alho]

eternity is expensive, has an expensive ability, is vulnerable to PC and only deals 4 damage. just because you lost to a deck using eternity, does not mean it is OP

[oopogo]

Your assumption that I'm posting "just because you lost to a deck using eternity" is ignorant and irritating.

I can't believe I'm the only one who thinks that A)dealing damage, B)rewinding your creature and C) stealing your next card draw is overpowered for 3 mana. With Time's ability to get a lot of mana onto the field quickly, it seems like the weapon's costs are far from expensive.

[Higurashi]

Assuming you're the only one with a certain opinion is equally ignorant. There's no reason to point it out besides being rude, so try to keep it civil from here on.

You're not the only one who thinks it's a bit too powerful. However, the nerf discussion has been focused around Reverse Time since it's a spell and thus mostly impossible to stop. The problem with Eternity is that PC is too rare. I love powerful weapons and perms, but because PC is so rare anyone that doesn't pack it is in for a huge disadvantage or even automatic loss if the situation is extreme enough (Dim Shields).

I don't think the solution is nerfing Eternity since it's not overpowered compared to the other strongest perms. I think the solution is adding more in-element PC, soft or not, to the game.

[oopogo]

Assuming you're the only one with a certain opinion is equally ignorant. There's no reason to point it out besides being rude, so try to keep it civil from here on.

I guess it would be, but I didn't do that. I simply responded in kind to an off-handed post from someone who assumed I played one game and decided to cry about it. I called a spade a spade.

I can't believe I'm the only one who thinks that A)dealing damage, B)rewinding your creature and C) stealing your next card draw is overpowered for 3 mana. With Time's ability to get a lot of mana onto the field quickly, it seems like the weapon's costs are far from expensive.

Me saying I can't believe I'm the only one implies that I don't believe I'm the only one with a certain opinion.

Back on topic, imo.

[Higurashi]

No, you did not. He didn't call you ignorant or irritating. That said, it's fine to be irritated by people assuming too much, from your perspective. It's not fine to insult people.
That's what isn't civil. That's what I have to step in for. This discussion ends here, as we have to stay on topic.

(confirming your disbelief is a normal response to a normal idiom)

[jacker]

I think too that is a bit OP. depending of the cases, i'd prefer that eternity would kill the creature rather than return it to the deck and steal the draw.
If the problem is the card itself or the conest of the game (how many PC cards are in the game), the fact is that.

Probably the effect could put the creature back to the hand and, if full to the top of the deck.

[mega plini]

killing a creature instantanious is OP, rewinding it isn't.

[oopogo]

You're not the only one who thinks it's a bit too powerful. However, the nerf discussion has been focused around Reverse Time since it's a spell and thus mostly impossible to stop. The problem with Eternity is that PC is too rare. I love powerful weapons and perms, but because PC is so rare anyone that doesn't pack it is in for a huge disadvantage or even automatic loss if the situation is extreme enough (Dim Shields).

I agree that PC is too rare and requires a degree of luck to have one in your hand or to draw one when you need it (The exception that I see is arena decks with dexterity).

However, I still feel that something like allowing Eternity's ability to only be used every other round would bring a little more balance to it.

[oopogo]

killing a creature instantanious is OP, rewinding it isn't.

Killing a creature takes the creature plus the mana spent to play it. Usually this costs around 2 mana.

Rewinding with Eternity takes the creature off the field, takes the mana spent to play it, and takes a draw. This costs 3 mana.

[oopogo]

I put a poll up to gauge community perception.