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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg179549#msg179549
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 01:58:36 am »
I assume you know the birthday paradox then (in a room of 30 people, about 1/2 chance of two people sharing a birthday)
My version 0.5 is you notice random dates (like movie releases) on your birthday than not.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg179563#msg179563
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 02:15:47 am »
I believe it actually is 50% and I think 50% is fine.

However, I do like this poll option: "Count up the number of attacks and only let 1/2 of them hit".  If there are an odd number of attacks (6 creatures, 1 weapon) then the odd one could then be forced into a random 50%.  This would make really limit the "streakiness" of the shield, and there would be certain guarantees.

For instance, if you had 1 photon, 3 dragons, and no weapon, you would be guaranteed at least 1 dragon hitting.

23 creatures and 1 weapon = 12 guaranteed hits.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg179577#msg179577
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 02:29:12 am »
The sample size each turn is just too small to see a "real" 50% hit chance for attacks, but once you observe the number of hits and misses over a few thousand attacks, you'll see that the hit rate will fall much closer to the average of 50%.
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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg179590#msg179590
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2010, 02:43:14 am »
The sample size each turn is just too small to see a "real" 50% hit chance for attacks, but once you observe the number of hits and misses over a few thousand attacks, you'll see that the hit rate will fall much closer to the average of 50%.
I don't think that's fair, it should be up to luck.  I agree with the idea that 50% of the attacks /currently going through/ should hit.  So if 12 things are attacking, the game randomly picks 6 of them to hit.  Round halfs up.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg179654#msg179654
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2010, 04:23:34 am »
Identical topics merged.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg180745#msg180745
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 11:08:00 pm »
Thanks Jmizzle. Sorry for double posting before (I got a warning for that). Main prob was that I didn't know how to put in a poll after you post a topic. Along the same note, how do you add new options into a poll?

EDIT: NVM found how

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg180751#msg180751
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 11:18:47 pm »
Thanks Jmizzle. Sorry for double posting before (I got a warning for that). Main prob was that I didn't know how to put in a poll after you post a topic. Along the same note, how do you add new options into a poll?
There is an edit poll button near the top.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg180800#msg180800
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2010, 01:06:56 am »
It's fine. Actually I think fog shield is the one in need of a nerf (maybe 3-4 cost).

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg180814#msg180814
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 01:22:34 am »
No nerfing fog shield.

It used to be 2/1 for 30%. It got buffed to 40%.

If it ever gets nerfed, lower miss chance, not raise cost. Fog is good because of low cost.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg181011#msg181011
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2010, 12:48:14 pm »
fog is 20% per uantum. This is 8 1/3%. So surely we must be in agreement that this one isn't the one needing a nerf. My opinion is either buff this one or nerf fog shield. I don't mind how it's done, as long as they get balanced.

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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg181030#msg181030
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2010, 02:09:19 pm »
if you nerf dusk mantle, you must nerf fog shield (which i will not sit quietly for). this card shouldnt be nerfed, it should either stay the same, or be buffed a LITTLE.
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Re: Nerf this card: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14207.msg181101#msg181101
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2010, 04:18:45 pm »
"Count number of creatures and let only half of them hit" is not nerfing the shield.  It is just making it more consistent so you don't have 1 game where it blocks everything and 1 game where it blocks nothing.  I would like the same thing to happen with Fog Shield.

 

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