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How do you think this card should be nerfed?

Just remove the card
3 (3.4%)
Should be normal poison, and he should cost less
1 (1.1%)
Should be normal poison, and he should start with one attack
3 (3.4%)
I have my own idea how to nerf him
2 (2.3%)
The card is fine! Stop acting like it's overpowered!
78 (89.7%)

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How do you think this card should be nerfed?

The card is perfect. It should NOT be nerfed
The effect should be removed when it dies
Give it  1|2 1|3 attack|HP and remove its affect when it dies
It Should be like other Scorpions
others (please specify)

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what should be done

keep it as is
28 (93.3%)
change it to the normal poison
1 (3.3%)
Get rid of it
1 (3.3%)
Other (Specify in post)
0 (0%)

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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg513607#msg513607
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2012, 09:50:00 pm »
While it's not overpowered, saying "it's not overpowered because I have a counter for it" is not a valid reason for saying it's not overpowered.

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Re: This thread is now ponies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg513612#msg513612
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 10:12:22 pm »
I guess I should have made it more clear, but he did have two scorpions
So it was 4 cards not just 2.
4 cards dealing 20 poison over 5 turns = 1 poison per card per turn = Forest Scorpion
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg514221#msg514221
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2012, 05:14:08 pm »
It's a good idea and works fine the way it is. It isn't too overpowered. I've never felt bad losing to neurotoxin. It also makes perfect sense.
It's great just as it is, I say.
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg514247#msg514247
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 06:04:12 pm »
Not OP at all.  However, there's an argument to be made that Shard of Sacrifice is OP, and that's often combo'd with this guy.  In fact, that's the whole premise of some popular platinum arena farming decks:  get one dune scorpion out early, get one hit with it to turn neurotoxin on, then cower like a little girl behind every sort of stall (mostly shard of sacrifice) you can.

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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg514308#msg514308
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 08:16:20 pm »
Not OP at all.  However, there's an argument to be made that Shard of Sacrifice is OP, and that's often combo'd with this guy.  In fact, that's the whole premise of some popular platinum arena farming decks:  get one dune scorpion out early, get one hit with it to turn neurotoxin on, then cower like a little girl behind every sort of stall (mostly shard of sacrifice) you can.

If there's an argument to be made that SoSac is OP, please put it in the Nerf Shard of Sacrifice thread and not the Nerf Dune Scorpion thread.  Also, SPlat's existence does not constitute OPness in and of itself.

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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg514397#msg514397
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2012, 01:21:51 am »
It's not op.
1. You need to buff it first, making it a duo/combo.
2. on average(not counting RT and procrastination) if whatever you are playing deals your opponent/heals you more than 1 per turn, it is a good idea to play it. eg. playing a photon would deal both you and your opponent 1 damage per turn.
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg514614#msg514614
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2012, 05:16:46 pm »
It's not op.
1. You need to buff it first, making it a duo/combo.
2. on average(not counting RT and procrastination) if whatever you are playing deals your opponent/heals you more than 1 per turn, it is a good idea to play it. eg. playing a photon would deal both you and your opponent 1 damage per turn.
2. is a good point but it assumes that whatever you are playing will not get CC'd or destroyed or nullified or make you lose earlier, so make sure to keep those points in mind.

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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg520943#msg520943
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2012, 05:52:26 am »
I think its pretty good the way it is makes people think about which cards they absolutely need to put down and pretty sure time doesnt have any cards that would give dune scorpion attack boost so it can inflict poisin that way so itd have to be at least a duo-deck...

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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg521026#msg521026
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2012, 10:37:42 am »
I think its pretty good the way it is makes people think about which cards they absolutely need to put down and pretty sure time doesnt have any cards that would give dune scorpion attack boost so it can inflict poisin that way so itd have to be at least a duo-deck...
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg521030#msg521030
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2012, 10:51:53 am »
I don't c how this card can be OP. You need  :entropy or :gravity or :light and beyond that, it's just a 0 attack creature. Yes, the poison stacks but just like arsenic, poison, SoSa, you can just neutralize it with purify and you don't spam. If you are playing a rushing deck.........and even if the player somehow manage to play this card in the early rounds, you should be able to deal significant damage to him before the accumulated poison threatens to kill you. (as the Qs. is based on dune scorpion, it's out of the option to link it with other creatures or weapon with blessings, chaos seed and unstoppable being the exceptions)
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg533661#msg533661
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2012, 08:51:04 am »
The card is fine!i think that almost everyone agrees with that.
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Re: Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41429.msg533666#msg533666
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2012, 09:34:44 am »
No, this is balanced.
Compare this to the deathstalker.
They both are 0 ATK and needs buff, making duo.
And on avg, Deathstalker and Dune Scropion adds 2 poison counter each turn.

Yes, if deathstalker is dead there's no more poison unlike dune scorpion.
That's true, but +1 cost for dune scorpion

Furthermore, neurotoxin effect is not stacked.
Even you played two dune scorpions, opponents get 1 counter when playing cards, not 2.
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