[Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield

[Aves]

Playing expensive dim shields means you don't have the quanta to rush aether's generally expensive creatures. If you look at it, basically all the counters to dim shield are cheaper than dim shield.

[rosutosefi]

To all the people who say that Dimensional Shield is countered by PC: That's silly.
Among all other shields (except bonewall and immaterials), Dimensional Shield is the LEAST countered by Permanent Control. First, all other shields are destroyed by a single PC. Their power-cost ratio is balanced based on their duration, which is the whole game. A turn 1 PC on shields will render it useless and therefore would have lost its full worth, but on a 2nd turn shield, it is not the same. Dimensional Shield have already spent 1/3 of its effectiveness, while the other shields might even still have almost no effect on the match by that time. Second, 2-3 PC is enough for the other shields, while dim shields require that you bring 6 PC to shut down its effectiveness. Hey, dim shields do have weaknesses, but look at the other shields.
Come on, I don't think you would say Dusk Shield is underpowered, right?

[sillyargument]
Look at final war matches, too:
War 4: Light has 5 Dims. Death has 6. TROLOLO Death wins!
War 5: Time has 4 Dims. Aether has 5. TROLOLO Aether wins!
War 3 was ruled by grabbows (another problem) and I can't read old war final battles.
[/sillyargument]

I have close to 130k Score

I have more. Bow down to me and listen to my argument.
But seriously, score does not matter. Have you joined any PVP events?

and I don't think it needs to be nerfed, there are many shards that can pass through it, even if you have a mono deck,
maybe you need to go a little bit in the arena and try to get some,
Shards of Focus,
Shards of Freedom,
Shard of Wisdom,
Shard of readiness + Butterfly effect,
Shard of Void, Direct and Permanent damage  <--what else do you want.
many other cards.
maybe what you need is a good arena deck, not to nerf all the cards that annoy you.
if you consider this ask me I have pretty good deck for silver and gold.

Then again, these are suboptimal counters. If a card shakes the metagame too much so that all your decks need to counter that one, is that another reason to nerf the card? Are you saying all decks should pack 6 PC and lose against other decks just because Dim Shield is a "perfectly balanced" card everyone should counter? And why are you basing everything on arena?
And the mono-element part. Please build a decent mono-time deck that can win against a standard mono-aether.

[Tirear]

And the mono-element part. Please build a decent mono-time deck that can win against a standard mono-aether.

Challenge accepted!

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Unfortunately, the AI fails at playing both decks, and I don't know anyone with 5 upgraded time nymphs, so I can't really test how well it works. Still, the deck has defense that works against immortals, immunity to lobo, damage through dim shields, and lots of draw power. Also, I'm pretty sure there is room for improvement in this deck, but the trainer takes forever to make changes to a deck after you have all cards, and I'm just not feeling patient enough for further tuning at this point.

[Chapuz]

And the mono-element part. Please build a decent mono-time deck that can win against a standard mono-aether.

Challenge accepted!

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Aether mark and challenge accomplished.

[edupro123]

To all the people who say that Dimensional Shield is countered by PC: That's silly.
Among all other shields (except bonewall and immaterials), Dimensional Shield is the LEAST countered by Permanent Control. First, all other shields are destroyed by a single PC. Their power-cost ratio is balanced based on their duration, which is the whole game. A turn 1 PC on shields will render it useless and therefore would have lost its full worth, but on a 2nd turn shield, it is not the same. Dimensional Shield have already spent 1/3 of its effectiveness, while the other shields might even still have almost no effect on the match by that time. Second, 2-3 PC is enough for the other shields, while dim shields require that you bring 6 PC to shut down its effectiveness. Hey, dim shields do have weaknesses, but look at the other shields.
Come on, I don't think you would say Dusk Shield is underpowered, right?

[sillyargument]
Look at final war matches, too:
War 4: Light has 5 Dims. Death has 6. TROLOLO Death wins!
War 5: Time has 4 Dims. Aether has 5. TROLOLO Aether wins!
War 3 was ruled by grabbows (another problem) and I can't read old war final battles.
[/sillyargument]

I have close to 130k Score

I have more. Bow down to me and listen to my argument.
But seriously, score does not matter. Have you joined any PVP events?

and I don't think it needs to be nerfed, there are many shards that can pass through it, even if you have a mono deck,
maybe you need to go a little bit in the arena and try to get some,
Shards of Focus,
Shards of Freedom,
Shard of Wisdom,
Shard of readiness + Butterfly effect,
Shard of Void, Direct and Permanent damage  <--what else do you want.
many other cards.
maybe what you need is a good arena deck, not to nerf all the cards that annoy you.
if you consider this ask me I have pretty good deck for silver and gold.

Then again, these are suboptimal counters. If a card shakes the metagame too much so that all your decks need to counter that one, is that another reason to nerf the card? Are you saying all decks should pack 6 PC and lose against other decks just because Dim Shield is a "perfectly balanced" card everyone should counter? And why are you basing everything on arena?
And the mono-element part. Please build a decent mono-time deck that can win against a standard mono-aether.

totally agree with that. I play a few PC in my rushers decks and have a decent chance to win against a mono aether, but i dont want to feel like quiting everytime i lost leaving they in 20. I would like to play at the pvp tournaments, but well, that forum requirement...

offtopic: nice flandre avatar.

[furballdn]

I heard challenge?

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oh, and

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oh, and

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[Captain Scibra]

And the mono-element part. Please build a decent mono-time deck that can win against a standard mono-aether.

Challenge accepted!

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Aether mark and challenge accomplished.

*points at SoR*

[majofa]

So, I see 4 decks that are 'counters' to Dim Shield....

Challenge not accomplished....

[Chapuz]

So, I see 4 decks that are 'counters' to Dim Shield....

Challenge not accomplished....

because mono time is so reliable 

[majofa]

So, I see 4 decks that are 'counters' to Dim Shield....

Challenge not accomplished....

because mono time is so reliable 

No, because those decks won't win against a well build deck with Dim Shields.

[OldTrees]

May I recommend empirical evidence instead of assertions?
Dim Shield deck (majofa) vs any of the mono time attempts?

[Chapuz]

So, I see 4 decks that are 'counters' to Dim Shield....

Challenge not accomplished....

because mono time is so reliable 

No, because those decks won't win against a well build deck with Dim Shields.

May I recommend empirical evidence instead of assertions?
Dim Shield deck (majofa) vs any of the mono time attempts?

mono time just can't against mono aether. SoFre dragons? thunderbolt. Pharaoh? Lobo. 2 anubis in the same turn to prevent lobo? too slow.
and majofa is almost unbeatable even ig he plays with a mono pilar