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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1192616#msg1192616
« Reply #720 on: June 10, 2015, 03:36:40 pm »
well, its... you need PC. Either you have it or you don't have it, and typically with the way 6 dims are included into a 30-card deck, you've either got explosions or a pulvy in a deck, or you just hope and pray they run out of dims  to chain, and even when there is a gap, it might last one or two turns, perhaps three or four if you're lucky.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1192619#msg1192619
« Reply #721 on: June 10, 2015, 04:11:47 pm »
well, its... you need PC. Either you have it or you don't have it, and typically with the way 6 dims are included into a 30-card deck, you've either got explosions or a pulvy in a deck, or you just hope and pray they run out of dims  to chain, and even when there is a gap, it might last one or two turns, perhaps three or four if you're lucky.

- You do not HAVE to defeat Dims with PC.  Shield by-pass is also effective but is NOT PC.
  ~ Spell damage / Poison / Momentum / direct-damage (catapult/Voodoo/reflected-own-damage)
- You can also outstall a Dim deck as most are around 30 cards deep.
- You can "use their own element against them" with a properly timed Silence

I would agree that the most straight forward method is to time the PC to be OTK before a new Dim can be placed, but to say that ONLY PC can defeat Dims is grossly inaccurate.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1192634#msg1192634
« Reply #722 on: June 10, 2015, 08:55:46 pm »
well, its... you need PC. Either you have it or you don't have it, and typically with the way 6 dims are included into a 30-card deck, you've either got explosions or a pulvy in a deck, or you just hope and pray they run out of dims  to chain, and even when there is a gap, it might last one or two turns, perhaps three or four if you're lucky.
As rob77dp said. However, i would like to emphasize a bit more. Mono life against a standard shield chain can win about 50% of the time if made in to a stall, mono light could do almost 100%, as mono aether has issues getting past divinities and miracles. Mono death can stall and use poison. OTKs usually run momentum, not deflag or steal. Mono air has freedom and gases, mono aether has spell damage. Then fire also has spell damage. These are all valid, and a good half, fairly common ways around it.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1192642#msg1192642
« Reply #723 on: June 10, 2015, 10:09:39 pm »
Don't see much of Dragon MA in PvP anymore though. Whether it's Fractal Recluses or Psions+Lobo, neither Life nor Light have a chance over 10%. The rest are valid, though Death has a lot of trouble trying to achieve stalling and actually works better putting in physical damage early instead.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1205699#msg1205699
« Reply #724 on: September 16, 2015, 08:14:37 am »
I think they should close this thread until the moderators decide to re-open. Every time I go to see what has been posted to things I've replied to this pops up. There is never any new content on it; its is always the same new player complaining about the card being overpowered. I understand it is a frustrating card and before I started getting more into the game I thought it was over powered too but enough is enough already. I know I'm tired of this thread and I'm betting a lot of other people are too.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1205700#msg1205700
« Reply #725 on: September 16, 2015, 08:33:08 am »
I think they should close this thread until the moderators decide to re-open. Every time I go to see what has been posted to things I've replied to this pops up. There is never any new content on it; its is always the same new player complaining about the card being overpowered. I understand it is a frustrating card and before I started getting more into the game I thought it was over powered too but enough is enough already. I know I'm tired of this thread and I'm betting a lot of other people are too.
Closing this thread would just result in new players spamming new threads. If you don't want to see continued "discussion", you can unfollow the thread.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1205701#msg1205701
« Reply #726 on: September 16, 2015, 08:35:59 am »
I think they should close this thread until the moderators decide to re-open. Every time I go to see what has been posted to things I've replied to this pops up. There is never any new content on it; its is always the same new player complaining about the card being overpowered. I understand it is a frustrating card and before I started getting more into the game I thought it was over powered too but enough is enough already. I know I'm tired of this thread and I'm betting a lot of other people are too.

If people are getting overwhelmed by this thread, why would they still be posting here? You can easily un-notify this thread rather than raging here. And you only have 4 posts here, there are people who have 23 to 60 and still posting. And why should this thread be closed? Because its frustrating? This thread is a room for open-discussion, and so is other "OP called cards threads (i.e Discord)"

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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1205710#msg1205710
« Reply #727 on: September 16, 2015, 10:18:27 am »
I think they should close this thread until the moderators decide to re-open. Every time I go to see what has been posted to things I've replied to this pops up. There is never any new content on it; its is always the same new player complaining about the card being overpowered. I understand it is a frustrating card and before I started getting more into the game I thought it was over powered too but enough is enough already. I know I'm tired of this thread and I'm betting a lot of other people are too.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1205808#msg1205808
« Reply #728 on: September 17, 2015, 01:20:36 am »
I think they should close this thread until the moderators decide to re-open. Every time I go to see what has been posted to things I've replied to this pops up. There is never any new content on it; its is always the same new player complaining about the card being overpowered. I understand it is a frustrating card and before I started getting more into the game I thought it was over powered too but enough is enough already. I know I'm tired of this thread and I'm betting a lot of other people are too.
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1207174#msg1207174
« Reply #729 on: September 26, 2015, 01:15:33 pm »
Now that  :water has Shard of Patience, whenever my opponent casts Dimensional Shield I would just cast my Shard. I wouldn't be able to attack anyway, so the drawback of the Shard doesn't feel too frustating. Within 3 turns, all my creatures get +6/+6 (+15/+15 with Flooding). If they managed to chain 6 Dimensional Shields, I would have my creatures getting +36/+36 (+90/+90 with Flooding). Such a Xanatos Gambit, eh?
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1207175#msg1207175
« Reply #730 on: September 26, 2015, 01:27:35 pm »
Now that  :water has Shard of Patience, whenever my opponent casts Dimensional Shield I would just cast my Shard. I wouldn't be able to attack anyway, so the drawback of the Shard doesn't feel too frustating. Within 3 turns, all my creatures get +6/+6 (+15/+15 with Flooding). If they managed to chain 6 Dimensional Shields, I would have my creatures getting +36/+36 (+90/+90 with Flooding). Such a Xanatos Gambit, eh?

Unless they would kill you with a Mono SoW
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Re: [Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1207176#msg1207176
« Reply #731 on: September 26, 2015, 01:42:41 pm »
Now that  :water has Shard of Patience, whenever my opponent casts Dimensional Shield I would just cast my Shard. I wouldn't be able to attack anyway, so the drawback of the Shard doesn't feel too frustating. Within 3 turns, all my creatures get +6/+6 (+15/+15 with Flooding). If they managed to chain 6 Dimensional Shields, I would have my creatures getting +36/+36 (+90/+90 with Flooding). Such a Xanatos Gambit, eh?

Unless they would kill you with a Mono SoW

Well, :water has access to all 3 types of damage. If physical damage can't get through, the poison damage from early Puffer Fish attacks and spell damage from Ice Lances will do.
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