[Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield

[jawdirk]

Compare CC. Very few creatures have over 5hp. A 12 dragon disappears with 1 or even 1 .

A 12 dragon (which is deliberately fragile to offset its high attack) disappears after it deals damage for at least a turn. If you subtract the damage it deals on the first turn, the quanta cost is not so bad.

You do have a point that the most expensive creatures are more expensive than the most expensive permanents, but by-and-large they do a large amount of damage on the turn they come out, where as permanents by-and-large do nothing on the turn they come out.

[Captain Scibra]

This is definitely a 'power card'.  It simply needs downsized to 2 turns for 4 .  Most of it's counters are suboptimal as well.   

[majofa]

Ignore the last part.

[Captain Scibra]

Spoiler for Hidden:

Ignore the last part.

Actually the last part does fit thematically, and would justify a -1 cost.  Also, it does add a little flavor to the card than a boring all-protect shield.

[Zergva]

I'm really scared about this way of 'nerf'. Because i think that's normal if something does a good thing for a high price, but I don't think I'm ever want to see a low price  card, who delays me for 'only' 2 turns. The Psion made the deck faster, but I don't think, that a good way if we give  more acceleration... That's cheaper than Turtle shield and give more time to you too (and drains weapons too)!

The optimal to give it a minor nerf like:

-This card should counts 2 of your draw phase. Because that's unfair if you Steal this piece of sh...omething you have only 1 counter in it (because one drained at the end of you opponent turn and 1 at the end of yours). Of course, that's makes vulnerable only with that card (and makes the best PC more powerful), but it's not all, what we can do.

- I thought about to use only 5 in one deck of it, but it's too complicant to programme and unfair for the Aether...

-If you good at something, never do it for free! What if that's card absorb 1  per turn. If that's on your field, you have 4-5 pillar, so that's doesn't count a lot, but it's can make the card more balanced.

Please, if you have an opinion about my ideas for the nerf, say it, because I want to improve

[OldTrees]

@Zergva
Count as 2 draws?
Very irregular and would enable Dim Shield to work as deckout. I don't like that idea.

Limit quantity to 5?
No. We should balance cards with the card's variables not with the game's variables.

Absorb  ?
Equals increase casting cost by 3 .

[Zergva]

No, I written it wrong the first . The counter on the card are taken down at your draw phase, not at the end of your turn . And that's mean, it's defends you for 3 turns with only 2 counters on it. Sorry!

[edupro123]

it's pretty easy, dim shield is not invincible, but you must draw the hate to win. When you MUST draw hate against a card to win, the card is OP. If you play a 30 card deck, after turn 5 you can make dim shield lock for the rest of the match, and that is not cool. Make it last one turn less and it will be ok. Everyone can play mono aether with 6 dim shields and stand a good chance against any good deck.

[Aves]

it's pretty easy, dim shield is not invincible, but you must draw the hate to win. When you MUST draw hate against a card to win, the card is OP. If you play a 30 card deck, after turn 5 you can make dim shield lock for the rest of the match, and that is not cool. Make it last one turn less and it will be ok. Everyone can play mono aether with 6 dim shields and stand a good chance against any good deck.

What is 'draw hate'?
And could you give an example of a 'good deck'?

[Wizy]

1st post and is put to the test.
'draw hate against a card' i.e. draw the cards capable of destroying/bypassing dim shields.

A deck with 6 dim shields stands a good chance against many good decks.

And could you give an example of a 'good deck'?

That's just harsh.

[OldTrees]

it's pretty easy, dim shield is not invincible, but you must draw the hate to win. When you MUST draw hate against a card to win, the card is OP. If you play a 30 card deck, after turn 5 you can make dim shield lock for the rest of the match, and that is not cool. Make it last one turn less and it will be ok. Everyone can play mono aether with 6 dim shields and stand a good chance against any good deck.

What is 'draw hate'?
And could you give an example of a 'good deck'?

Hate is a term that usually mean counter. (There are a few distinctions. Indirect counters are not usually included.) Elemental Hate is a counter to an element. PC is the common form of Permanent Hate.
An example good deck: Immolation Rush

@edupro123
You are absolutely correct that if one needs to draw hate to be defeated then it is damaging the metagame. The 2 turn Sundial, early Shard of Sacrifice and current Shard of Focus are good evidence of this rule.

There is the question about whether Dimensional Shield fits as an example of this rule.

[frimax]

Don't nerf it, Mono Aethers is my speciality on GOLD arena, If people don't use it, I wouldn't get EMS, anymore.