[Official] Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield

[Cheesy111]

It is, but it would be even more op if mind flayer and loboer didn't exist.

That does not change the fact that SoFo is overpowered even though it has counters.

[rosutosefi]

Furthermore, Spell Damage, PC, denial and momentum also counter other shields (except reflectives. Jade Shield OP?) so these shields should be balanced among themselves.

Compare Titanium Shield and Dimensional Shield. While the two shields have different mechanics and thus will make them difficult to compare, PC, denial, momentum and spell damage will counter both. This means that the addition of cards that counter Shields is not the right way, as these shields should be balanced among each other. Heck, Dim Shield is even more PC-resistant than Titanium Shield. You need to destroy 6 Dims compared to at most 3 Titaniums in a deck. If you add more counters to shields in the form of PC or shield bypass or whatever stuff you may think of, the result will be like this:

5 - 1 = 4 compared to 4 - 1 = 3
Yes, I like vague analogies. They allow me to know if people really understand my argument.

[OldTrees]

5 - 1 = 4 compared to 4 - 1 = 3
Yes, I like vague analogies. They allow me to know if people really understand my argument.

I think I understood. If most cards (shields in this case) end up being 4 then the 3 is UP. If most cards end up being 3 then the 4 is OP.

[Cheesy111]

Furthermore, Spell Damage, PC, denial and momentum also counter other shields (except reflectives. Jade Shield OP?) so these shields should be balanced among themselves.

Compare Titanium Shield and Dimensional Shield. While the two shields have different mechanics and thus will make them difficult to compare, PC, denial, momentum and spell damage will counter both. This means that the addition of cards that counter Shields is not the right way, as these shields should be balanced among each other. Heck, Dim Shield is even more PC-resistant than Titanium Shield. You need to destroy 6 Dims compared to at most 3 Titaniums in a deck. If you add more counters to shields in the form of PC or shield bypass or whatever stuff you may think of, the result will be like this:

5 - 1 = 4 compared to 4 - 1 = 3
Yes, I like vague analogies. They allow me to know if people really understand my argument.

The damage of countering Dim Shield in a deck is not usually comparable to the damage of countering Titanium Shield in a deck. 

[rosutosefi]

@OldTrees 

The damage of countering Dim Shield in a deck is not usually comparable to the damage of countering Titanium Shield in a deck.

This is a bad thing, too.

[Cheesy111]

@OldTrees 

The damage of countering Dim Shield in a deck is not usually comparable to the damage of countering Titanium Shield in a deck.

This is a bad thing, too.

I think it's just the nature of the shield, it's the same with Diss or Wings.

[kimham8a]

Furthermore, Spell Damage, PC, denial and momentum also counter other shields (except reflectives. Jade Shield OP?) so these shields should be balanced among themselves.

Compare Titanium Shield and Dimensional Shield. While the two shields have different mechanics and thus will make them difficult to compare, PC, denial, momentum and spell damage will counter both. This means that the addition of cards that counter Shields is not the right way, as these shields should be balanced among each other. Heck, Dim Shield is even more PC-resistant than Titanium Shield. You need to destroy 6 Dims compared to at most 3 Titaniums in a deck. If you add more counters to shields in the form of PC or shield bypass or whatever stuff you may think of, the result will be like this:

5 - 1 = 4 compared to 4 - 1 = 3
Yes, I like vague analogies. They allow me to know if people really understand my argument.

6 dims cost much more than 3 titaniums.
If you compared it fairly and put only one of each, titanium would be better in most cases.
Because dims come in packs of 6 and other shields neeed only one

[rosutosefi]

6 dims cost much more than 3 titaniums.
If you compared it fairly and put only one of each, titanium would be better in most cases.
Because dims come in packs of 6 and other shields neeed only one

That's why the addition of a single PC can remove your titanium, but will only remove 1/6 out of a dim shield deck. In the end, Dims win when you add more PC.
1 Dim can block out more damage than 1 Titanium in a 30 card deck, sometimes.

[Aves]

I don't think you're accounting enough to the different mechanic. You have to do the conversion of turns of damage and (# Creatures Attacking * 2) in reduction.
Dim Shields' protection is stacked as
18 to 0 turns in renewable, expensive sets of three
Titanium shield's protection is stacked as
2 *  # of Creatures / turns in play
(Discounting creatures below 2 Atk for the sake of simplicity)

Yes, Dim is more PC resistant, but it is also more fragile and easy to break (dependency on draw, limited deck space, harder to protect, expensiveness, comparable high drop in protection after even one dim shield is destroyed to the other shields). It is more expensive to sustain a dim shield chain than it is to sustain a conventional DR shield being destroyed by PC.

[kimham8a]

by not using 6 shields like mono aether other decks get 5 extra cards. For example maybe add 5 sofo.

[condemned88]

i also think this card is a bit overpowered, but only in the sense of having multiple of if and can replace the other ones before the current shield is destroyed, giving protection for as long as you are able to draw more..

my "idea" is that either you make the shield so once it runs out you have to wait 1 full turn before beeing able to play another or that you cant replace a dimensional shield with another dimensional shield.

[Drake_XIV]

i also think this card is a bit overpowered, but only in the sense of having multiple of if and can replace the other ones before the current shield is destroyed, giving protection for as long as you are able to draw more..

my "idea" is that either you make the shield so once it runs out you have to wait 1 full turn before beeing able to play another or that you cant replace a dimensional shield with another dimensional shield.

Then you'd just chain the shield before ti disappears.  Yes, you lose 5 turns, but still.