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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539662#msg539662
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2012, 01:24:26 am »
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck
Your stunning evidence convinces me.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539665#msg539665
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2012, 01:29:17 am »
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck

thank you for editing the topic name.

now, this is not an overpowered deck for one big reason. It is beatable. Repeatedly. Brutally. I have EM'd against that deck. (Use the forums to look up counters if you want.)
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539670#msg539670
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2012, 01:40:40 am »
Quote from: whatifidogetcaught? on September 07, 2012, 01:29:17 am
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck

thank you for editing the topic name.

now, this is not an overpowered deck for one big reason. It is beatable. Repeatedly. Brutally. I have EM'd against that deck. (Use the forums to look up counters if you want.)

EVERY DECK IS BEATABLE.  Please do NOT use this as a criterion for overpoweredness. 
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539672#msg539672
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2012, 01:40:54 am »
Devourer/Pest is balanced

Reasons (taken together)
1)In solo (Mono Darkness) or supported (Devtal/Devtosis), the user pays a cost comparable with the effect generated.

2)Each Pest causes a net quanta advantage of 2 per turn. It costs roughly double the cost of a creature with half the net quanta advantage (Ray of Light).

3)It has a variety of counters ranging from CC to anti QD (quanta denial). These counters are not limited to 1 genre.

4)It has not warped the metagame.


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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539675#msg539675
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2012, 01:46:09 am »
Also, before deciding whether a card is OP or not, try playing against it AND using it.
In short: try that OP deck. If it's OP, you need no other decks for grinding. Because it always win.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539679#msg539679
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2012, 01:51:11 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on September 07, 2012, 01:40:54 am
Devourer/Pest is balanced

Reasons (taken together)
1)In solo (Mono Darkness) or supported (Devtal/Devtosis), the user pays a cost comparable with the effect generated.

2)Each Pest causes a net quanta advantage of 2 per turn. It costs roughly double the cost of a creature with half the net quanta advantage (Ray of Light).

3)It has a variety of counters ranging from CC to anti QD (quanta denial). These counters are not limited to 1 genre.

4)It has not warped the metagame.
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Just in case blueberrymania doesn't get it (not calling you dumb, just checking to see if you are aware of terminology):

1) Basically, the cost of playing a Devourer (or multiple) is reasonable compared to what it does.
2) Pests create a difference of 2 quanta per turn (1 :darkness for you, and -1 of something for your opponent), and has twice as much cost as Brimstone Eater, which only creates a difference of 1 quanta per turn (better example than the one by OldTrees).
3) It has many counters, including (but not limited to) simply killing it or using sanctuaries.
4) It isn't being used in almost every deck, forcing people to prepare for it.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539683#msg539683
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2012, 02:06:33 am »
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck
No. Just no. Please, actually play the game a lot before you go calling stuff over powered. Pestal is not even close to overpowered.  Pestal is weak early game and only starts to gain actual speed around turn 3 or 4, when most faster decks are already setup up and swinging.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539690#msg539690
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2012, 02:28:49 am »
Quote from: omegareaper7 on September 07, 2012, 02:06:33 am
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck
No. Just no. Please, actually play the game a lot before you go calling stuff over powered. Pestal is not even close to overpowered.  Pestal is weak early game and only starts to gain actual speed around turn 3 or 4, when most faster decks are already setup up and swinging.

Except I tend to like slow decks. Anyways, I think I figured out what's really making that deck too powerful for me: Fractal.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539691#msg539691
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2012, 02:30:10 am »
Quote from: Cheesy111 on September 07, 2012, 01:40:40 am
EVERY DECK IS BEATABLE.  Please do NOT use this as a criterion for overpoweredness.

Noted. I will remember that.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539692#msg539692
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2012, 02:31:34 am »
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 02:28:49 am
Quote from: omegareaper7 on September 07, 2012, 02:06:33 am
Quote from: blueberrymania on September 07, 2012, 01:20:00 am
A deck composed of:

Aether Pendulums (with mark of darkness)
Fractals
Pests
Vampires
Nightfalls

is an overpowered deck
No. Just no. Please, actually play the game a lot before you go calling stuff over powered. Pestal is not even close to overpowered.  Pestal is weak early game and only starts to gain actual speed around turn 3 or 4, when most faster decks are already setup up and swinging.

Except I tend to like slow decks. Anyways, I think I figured out what's really making that deck too powerful for me: Fractal.
inb4 a nerf fractal thread appears.

"Something is OP because it counters my favorite type of deck!" Is a really weak argument.
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539693#msg539693
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2012, 02:34:09 am »
Devourers counter many strategies and are extremely powerful except against some strategies, like overquantad decks, early CC or simply any rainbow with quantum towers, not counting Sanctuary. Well, the game is in many cases a big rock-paper-scissors anyways
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Re: Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539729#msg539729
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2012, 07:45:01 am »
I am not sure if this cards needs nerf.
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