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Re: NERF PEST https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg504804#msg504804
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2012, 11:06:03 pm »
Why do pests have to burrow in the first place?
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Re: NERF PEST https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg504954#msg504954
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2012, 11:06:45 am »
at least burrow is an off-color ability

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Re: NERF PEST https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg505264#msg505264
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 01:47:25 am »
A good berf to pest would be making it 1|2 attack and drain quanta when it hits (make more than 0 damage). This way, it may requiere nightfall or steal to work against a DR shield. Also, PC+DR would stop it completely, but it may requiere at least a duo.
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Re: NERF PEST https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg505614#msg505614
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 12:39:32 am »
One Pest can't make a big trouble alone. You can have 6 of them in a deck, which means 6 quanta drain per turn. If you multiply them or their effect (eg. Fractal), they can drain a lot of quanta indeed, but there are way more powerful combos in the game... Besides, Sanctuary is not the only way to counter it - as it was mentioned, a single Quantum Pillar generates 3 quanta per turn. Supernova gives 22 (it costs 2 to play, so 24-2), etc. (Even the Pest-Spammer Decay can be defeated easily if you manage to play a few Supernovae in the early game.)

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Nerf Devourer/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539584#msg539584
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2012, 11:13:14 pm »
Garboid and Pest really need to be nerfed. They're more or less invincible, and they eat up too much quanta in big enough number. Maybe make it so they require quanta to eat up quanta?
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539585#msg539585
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2012, 11:14:16 pm »
Pest's unupped form is called Devourer. Graboid is a completely different card.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539586#msg539586
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2012, 11:20:26 pm »
Pest's unupped form is called Devourer. Graboid is a completely different card.
I don't think you quite understand. He isn't talking about Graboid, he's talking about Garboid, the unupped version of Pest. His points are valid and I agree that Garboid/Pest needs a nerf.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539587#msg539587
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2012, 11:32:01 pm »
Pest's unupped form is called Devourer. Graboid is a completely different card.
I don't think you quite understand. He isn't talking about Graboid, he's talking about Garboid, the unupped version of Pest. His points are valid and I agree that Garboid/Pest needs a nerf.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539592#msg539592
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2012, 11:41:26 pm »
Except, if a deck is centered around them and has nightfall, they don't NEED to be high on offensive, since the opponent can't spend quanta that they don't have.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539593#msg539593
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Because apparently 6 devourers in a 30 card deck is enough to completely quanta lock the opponent.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539594#msg539594
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All my decks only run 1 quantum pillar for quanta so yeah 6 garboids completely lock me down.
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Re: Nerf Garboid/Pest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17982.msg539604#msg539604
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2012, 12:07:44 am »
Devourer/pest needs a buff ... to 2 quantum stolen a turn ... the decks that are weak against them wouldn't be any weaker but the decks that don't care about them might think twice!
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