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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229514#msg229514
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 09:10:08 pm »
I've been having a lot of annoying times with these crusaders recently as they keep endowing my eagles eyes
annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
Since when do cards that are annoying to a few decks need to be nerfed.
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229542#msg229542
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 09:40:51 pm »
Many counters to this card.
A. don't play a weapon
B. Fly your weapon
C. just build a good deck.
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229548#msg229548
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 09:47:23 pm »
Many counters to this card.
A. don't play a weapon
B. Fly your weapon
That doesn't work. Crusader can target flying weapons (unless Zanz has changed things in the past couple of days).

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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229551#msg229551
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 09:54:10 pm »
I've never had a problem against an opposing crusader. It needs a buff. But wait, that means it needs a nerf and a buff. Do you see the flaw in your logic? Every deck has a weakness and Crusader is one of yours.

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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230687#msg230687
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 03:34:02 am »
Crusaders are annoing and strong both.  I want to say they are OP, but in reality, they are just a different look at a flying weapon deck.

They 'might' could stand for as slight stat or cost nerf, but I'll need much more testing first.

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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230711#msg230711
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 04:06:55 am »
Many counters to this card.
A. don't play a weapon
B. Fly your weapon
C. just build a good deck.
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my deck is perfectly fine, I can still win against them it just makes getting perfect wins so much harder
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230715#msg230715
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 04:10:08 am »
Many counters to this card.
A. don't play a weapon
B. Fly your weapon
That doesn't work. Crusader can target flying weapons (unless Zanz has changed things in the past couple of days).
Nope, I was playing them earlier today, and it was still like that.

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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230716#msg230716
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 04:10:50 am »
annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
Excuse me, but do you see any difference between this and a Flying EE? I didn't think so either.
it has two more attack and its easier to get multiple ones
Ouch. 2 attack for 3 more cost. Yeah, 2 attack for 3 cost is a way too good quanta to damage ratio  ::)

Easier to get multiple ones? 6 Crusaders. To play EE-like Crusaders you also need EE's. To play EE's you only need EE's. EE's can go mono. Yeah, duo's are definitely more stable and easier to balance than mono's...  ::)
flying EEs require an animate weapon each
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230779#msg230779
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 06:37:46 am »
LOL -- I saw this and I was like "O RLY?  I was about to start a thread suggesting this card get BUFFED...lolwut?"
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230789#msg230789
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 07:17:13 am »
LOL -- I saw this and I was like "O RLY?  I was about to start a thread suggesting this card get BUFFED...lolwut?"
why would this card need buffing, you can make it as powerful as dragon with an ability easily for less
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg230823#msg230823
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2010, 10:16:09 am »
1) It requires a second element in your deck unless you plan to Endow a Short Sword.

2) That inherently means quanta-balancing issues between the fairly high-cost Crusader and whatever element your weapon is from.

3) You have to draw and play the Crusader, have it live for a turn, and draw and play a weapon before you can Endow it.  That makes it statistically much slower than simply building up the quanta to play a Dragon. 

4) Dragons kinda suck regardless.
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Re: Crusader | Crusader (Elite) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg231018#msg231018
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2010, 08:17:45 pm »
If crusader only counters 1 type of weapon then essentially it's useless.  Once it endowed one of my electrocutors, but the opponent had no aether quanta to actually use it.  At that point then all it gains is the bonus to 5 attack and 4 hp and I've seen worse from other decks chaining blessings.

 

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