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[Official] Crusader | Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229160#msg229160
« on: December 20, 2010, 03:49:09 pm »


I've been having a lot of annoying times with these crusaders recently as they keep endowing my eagles eyes

annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229170#msg229170
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 04:03:35 pm »
There are many ways to deal with crusaders, and your Eagle's Eyes weren't powerful enough.

It doesn't mean they're unbeatable ! Build a better deck to counter them : they're not overpowered.
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229187#msg229187
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 04:28:20 pm »
There are many ways to deal with crusaders, and your Eagle's Eyes weren't powerful enough.

It doesn't mean they're unbeatable ! Build a better deck to counter them : they're not overpowered.
and how do you suggest  i make my eagle eyes more powerful?

anyway life and air dont have really powerful creature control cards like some decks, i could make a deck with more but that would make my other strategies harder to do, normally my eagle eye is enough but light can heal continually.
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229190#msg229190
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 04:32:10 pm »
endowed Crusader = 2 HP = 1 shot dead from Owls/Eagle Eye.

Plus, the problem isn't the crusader, the problem is that you are mad that he got to copy YOUR weapons ability.
You find overpowered that someone else used YOUR weapons ability on YOU.
Interesting line of reasoning :)

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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229196#msg229196
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 04:36:26 pm »
There are many ways to deal with crusaders, and your Eagle's Eyes weren't powerful enough.

It doesn't mean they're unbeatable ! Build a better deck to counter them : they're not overpowered.
and how do you suggest  i make my eagle eyes more powerful?

anyway life and air dont have really powerful creature control cards like some decks, i could make a deck with more but that would make my other strategies harder to do, normally my eagle eye is enough but light can heal continually.
Air has some of the best creature control in the game. Also, did you think of the fact that maybe Crusaders are a great counter to your deck and weak to other types of decks?
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229199#msg229199
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 04:38:56 pm »
The simplest counter to Crusaders with an Eagle's Eye deck is to not play the Eagle's Eye. It's like playing against someone with Steals, or playing your creatures and then hitting a Dim Shield and watching all your creatures get killed, or playing a bunch of small creatures before an Otyugh comes out. If you play a card before you know how your opponent can use it against you, you risk that.

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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229203#msg229203
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 04:43:13 pm »
endowed Crusader = 2 HP = 1 shot dead from Owls/Eagle Eye.

Plus, the problem isn't the crusader, the problem is that you are mad that he got to copy YOUR weapons ability.
You find overpowered that someone else used YOUR weapons ability on YOU.
Interesting line of reasoning :)
Endowed crusader = 6 Hp(4+2, upped it's 7) = It takes 2 shots (3 upped).
Then, if you are packing EEs, why don't you get some Shockwaves? That way you can kill them before they have a chance at endowing your weapon.

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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229217#msg229217
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 04:53:27 pm »
The simplest counter to Crusaders with an Eagle's Eye deck is to not play the Eagle's Eye. It's like playing against someone with Steals, or playing your creatures and then hitting a Dim Shield and watching all your creatures get killed, or playing a bunch of small creatures before an Otyugh comes out. If you play a card before you know how your opponent can use it against you, you risk that.
my eagles eye is essential damage dealer and creature control card, i could not use it but it would severely damage my deck in many situations
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229224#msg229224
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 05:00:45 pm »
annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
Excuse me, but do you see any difference between this and a Flying EE? I didn't think so either.
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229241#msg229241
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 05:19:50 pm »
annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
Excuse me, but do you see any difference between this and a Flying EE? I didn't think so either.
it has two more attack and its easier to get multiple ones
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229267#msg229267
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 05:51:01 pm »
I do not believe this card has been around long enough to be nerfed. It's a nice new card. If youre scared, play a long sword.
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Re: Crusader https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17974.msg229511#msg229511
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 09:07:06 pm »
annoyingly this means that they have a really powerful creature with potentially infinite creature control which is impossible to kill unless you have a significantly powerful creature control tool as it can use gaurdian angels and blessing.
Excuse me, but do you see any difference between this and a Flying EE? I didn't think so either.
it has two more attack and its easier to get multiple ones
Ouch. 2 attack for 3 more cost. Yeah, 2 attack for 3 cost is a way too good quanta to damage ratio  ::)

Easier to get multiple ones? 6 Crusaders. To play EE-like Crusaders you also need EE's. To play EE's you only need EE's. EE's can go mono. Yeah, duo's are definitely more stable and easier to balance than mono's...  ::)
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