[Official] Cloak | Cloak

[freemod1espilon]

I still think it needs no buff

[regen2k9]

Also, I'd just like to clarify...is this poll asking if specifically cloak should be given to another element, or is it asking if cloak should stay with darkness AND another element should get a card with a similar protection ability?

[Alchemist]

Poker Alho @
Guess you're not conformist as I thought you were, but for a second there... Nvm, apologies 4 that.

Even if we leave Cloak as a dark card, we still need more cards like "Cloak". Cause with all that PC, new counter PC are definitely required. And since darkness doesn't really have that much of a need for Cloak, it's actually underused. With new PC protection (within some other element or "others" - if it will be shard) this will happen: Ppl will use Cloak as much as they do now, or even less, and alternatives will be used more often. So it will basically be giving Cloak to some different element. SoFree is semi-Cloak already for Air. Which btw made Air useful again and many good air cards that were totally underused, like Wyrms and EFs - or more like the whole air arsenal. What I mind is that I have many different cards that are like good 4 nothing, and as you see a slight change can make many of them useful again. I sincerely doubt that loss of a card would make Darkness weaker and less played, but it would give an edge to many other decks or cards that aren't played at all.  I guess that taking was the part that minded most of you - balancing is always also taking - direct or literal, I just presented literal taking by my idea. Cloak did get partially nerfed - SoFree is indirect taking - it leaves Cloak card where it is, but in general - it's not far from giving Cloak to other element - as well. I see the difference, don't get me wrong. And when Cloak gets it's equivalents among some other elements, it really will be as good as it seems. If it's not unique, np that it's a Darkness card, but if there has to be only one like it - you gotto admit - it could fit better elswhere. But all this fuzz about Cloak makes me turn into another direction - creative one, without taking.

[Alchemist]

Also, I'd just like to clarify...is this poll asking if specifically cloak should be given to another element, or is it asking if cloak should stay with darkness AND another element should get a card with a similar protection ability?

Good point - I will add that option as well. And no, not Cloak specifically, but a card with similar protection ability.

[freemod1espilon]

I think I figured out why zanz has so many  cards its because no matter what there is darkness in every thing meaning people, life and death no matter what darkness or lack of light is every where so it is inescapable and never ending only able to changed into  and then back

[Poker Alho]

@ Alchemist the last thing i want is to get mad at another forum user, especially when we all want the same: a better game

apologies accepted and if i also offended you in some way on those previous posts, i say sorry too

[sunyata]

Although, I don't think cloak is OP, I wonder if a small nerf along thematic lines might not also improve the metagame and increase tactical options.  Light is the natural opposite of darkness, and it would be noce to see a few ways for light to negate some of the effects of darkness.  Eg if luminescence were played or a luminescent creature were in the field on a particular turn, this could remove the effect of cloak for that turn.

As a generalisation. I think it would be nice to have all elements containing specific abilities aimed at countering their opposite.  So darkness would also have something against light, death v life, fire v water, earth v air etc. etc.  But this is probably a conversation for another thread, so I think I'll start a new one to discuss this idea.

[davogotland]

i really liked the sandstorm card! having it depend on air also makes it more balanced, since SS/PA combo would otherwise be overpowered. nice!

why is that card not in the idea factory yet? did i miss it? is it somewhere else? i'm new here, so still trying to figure out where everything goes

[OldTrees]

i really liked the sandstorm card! having it depend on air also makes it more balanced, since SS/PA combo would otherwise be overpowered. nice!

why is that card not in the idea factory yet? did i miss it? is it somewhere else? i'm new here, so still trying to figure out where everything goes

Alchemist has not submitted such an idea to the Crucible. This thread seems to be suggesting changing Cloak rather than add a card to the game.

Fog has been submitted to the Crucible. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37637.0.html

The Idea Factory is a semi-private forum for the more experienced card designers.

[Alchemist]

Alchemist has not submitted such an idea to the Crucible.

The Sandstorm was Arum's idea. And yea, it should also be posted in Crucible.