[Official] Black Hole | Black Hole

[Sigh]

Sorry dude, but having a card that heals you AND your opponent would never be a card that I would ever use. I see where you're going with this, but healing both players, even if you're draining their quanta, would be considered far worse than what it is now.

[genraenera]

There seems to be a common theme among the complaints to nerf this card, that being the player claims someone used 6 black holes on them one after the other, in the very early game.  ANY card is going to be powerful if used 6 times within the first few turns.  6 rush creatures, 6 good CC cards, 6 good permanents; 6 of anything in the early game is powerful.
I can understand people getting fed up with dark matter, but in that case, nerf the god, not the card.

[Fallower]

Eh, I hate how this card causes rainbow shutdown and only rainbow shutdown. Its more or less impossible to counter with a rainbow deck.

[miniwally]

Eh, I hate how this card causes rainbow shutdown and only rainbow shutdown. Its more or less impossible to counter with a rainbow deck.

So make sure you don't go against it with a rainbow.

[Fallower]

So we have to predict when a black hole will come out, and autoquit when you see a person using it? Not playing a rainbow isn't a very good counter is it?

[GG]

I don't think the card is as OP as it sounds. It's just like a counterpart of Discord; Black Hole screws rainbows, and Discord screws monos and duos. All you have to do is just find a good counter when it's apparent that the opponent is going to use either of the two.

I WOULD agree that discord and black hole combined together is a bit OP.

But then again, my title seems to strongly influence my opinions.

[Fallower]

But then again, there are more counters for discord than black holes...

[Zeru]

So we have to predict when a black hole will come out, and autoquit when you see a person using it? Not playing a rainbow isn't a very good counter is it?

It IS a good counter not to use rainbow. You really expect to defeat every single deck with yours?

[Korugar]

I don't know what the problem is. There are very few cards that are good counters for rainbows, and rainbows alone.

[Kuross]

I feel that due to Rainbow deck's popularity people will zero in on BH's more simply due to it's ability to hurt a rainbow deck. In my experience, rainbow decks can get past BHs, albeit with some difficulty, but since most rainbows pack SNs, it's not as bad as it would seem.

Long story short, with regard to rainbows, BHs are not OP since it's one of the few effective means to keep rainbows from running rampant throughout the Elements world.

[Fallower]

So we have to predict when a black hole will come out, and autoquit when you see a person using it? Not playing a rainbow isn't a very good counter is it?

It IS a good counter not to use rainbow. You really expect to defeat every single deck with yours?

Rainbows already don't defeat every deck in the game, right? There is the fact that not everyone uses black hole, but its so situational I still think it needs a nerf.

[Kuross]

Rainbows already don't defeat every deck in the game, right? There is the fact that not everyone uses black hole, but its so situational I still think it needs a nerf.

Situational in that it is only good against rainbows? BH + Discord is a nasty combo that works well against non-rainbows.

Also, I don't understand. If it's so situational, how can it need a nerf? One would think that it would need a buff instead.