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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513515#msg513515
« Reply #1188 on: June 21, 2012, 04:24:43 pm »
Falso allarme. è una merda.
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513523#msg513523
« Reply #1189 on: June 21, 2012, 04:56:24 pm »
peccato...perché effettivamente io da un paio di giorni a questa parte sto grindando fg con instosis, in una variante pensata da me con sundial unup per non intasare in mano e magari essere senza torri a inizio game, e una time tower in più per bilanciare...

cmq qual era la tua idea RR?

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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513537#msg513537
« Reply #1190 on: June 21, 2012, 05:32:56 pm »
peccato...perché effettivamente io da un paio di giorni a questa parte sto grindando fg con instosis, in una variante pensata da me con sundial unup per non intasare in mano e magari essere senza torri a inizio game, e una time tower in più per bilanciare...

cmq qual era la tua idea RR?

inoltre sabato e domenica sono vicino alle tue parti, per la precisione a pozzolo di villaga...
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513539#msg513539
« Reply #1191 on: June 21, 2012, 05:53:48 pm »
Ciao ragazzi son tornato e non ho un cazzo di voglia di leggere le nuove pagine yeah!!!
Qualcosa di nuovo interessante? io voglio sentirmi figo dicendo che il mio firestall in silver sta facendo danni :P
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513551#msg513551
« Reply #1192 on: June 21, 2012, 06:44:00 pm »
Tom... Qual è il vantaggio di metterli unup i sundial?
L'ho letto da varie parti ciò che hai scritto ma non ho mai capito...
Alla fine perchè un sun che non costa nulla dovrebbe bloccarti più di uno che costa  :time ??
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513552#msg513552
« Reply #1193 on: June 21, 2012, 06:45:19 pm »
Ciao ragazzi son tornato e non ho un cazzo di voglia di leggere le nuove pagine yeah!!!
Qualcosa di nuovo interessante? io voglio sentirmi figo dicendo che il mio firestall in silver sta facendo danni :P

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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513572#msg513572
« Reply #1194 on: June 21, 2012, 07:55:57 pm »
Tom... Qual è il vantaggio di metterli unup i sundial?
L'ho letto da varie parti ciò che hai scritto ma non ho mai capito...
Alla fine perchè un sun che non costa nulla dovrebbe bloccarti più di uno che costa  :time ??

quando viene scelta la mano iniziale, se non hai carte a costo 0, viene scelta una nuova mano iniziale.

Ora: carte a costo 0 sono torri, novae, sundial up, qualche mob, sosac e basta.
quindi basta ceh ci sia almeno una di queste per avere una mano iniziale legittima.
nello specifico si parla di sundial e torri.
di cosa abbiamo bisogno noi? di torri, almeno all'inizio
cosa non vogliamo? sundial a cloggare, che sono costretto a calare, magari quando l'altro ha poco danno in tavola, senza nemmeno pescare.

soluzione: mettere sundial unup, che costando 1 non possono essere le uniche carte a costo 0 nella mano iniziale, ed essendo 6 è abbastanza probabile avere quelle e non le torri.
bilanciamento: + 1 time tower, perché le sundial cmq costano...In realtà non so esattametne quanto sia sensato come bilanciamento, perché porta il mazzo a 31 carte, mentre uno dice che magari gira così, però qualche volta mi è capitato di poter far partire la combo a quanta contato per il drago, quindi posso dire che, se non assolutamente necessaria, se non altro la torre extra fastidio non da...
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513575#msg513575
« Reply #1195 on: June 21, 2012, 08:07:43 pm »
Tom... Qual è il vantaggio di metterli unup i sundial?
L'ho letto da varie parti ciò che hai scritto ma non ho mai capito...
Alla fine perchè un sun che non costa nulla dovrebbe bloccarti più di uno che costa  :time ??

quando viene scelta la mano iniziale, se non hai carte a costo 0, viene scelta una nuova mano iniziale.

Ora: carte a costo 0 sono torri, novae, sundial up, qualche mob, sosac e basta.
quindi basta ceh ci sia almeno una di queste per avere una mano iniziale legittima.
nello specifico si parla di sundial e torri.
di cosa abbiamo bisogno noi? di torri, almeno all'inizio
cosa non vogliamo? sundial a cloggare, che sono costretto a calare, magari quando l'altro ha poco danno in tavola, senza nemmeno pescare.

soluzione: mettere sundial unup, che costando 1 non possono essere le uniche carte a costo 0 nella mano iniziale, ed essendo 6 è abbastanza probabile avere quelle e non le torri.
bilanciamento: + 1 time tower, perché le sundial cmq costano...In realtà non so esattametne quanto sia sensato come bilanciamento, perché porta il mazzo a 31 carte, mentre uno dice che magari gira così, però qualche volta mi è capitato di poter far partire la combo a quanta contato per il drago, quindi posso dire che, se non assolutamente necessaria, se non altro la torre extra fastidio non da...

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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513578#msg513578
« Reply #1196 on: June 21, 2012, 08:26:02 pm »
ma un +rep a tom che sa queste cose e ve le spiega per bene a parole non era più semplice?

cmq ho fatto la simula sul link di RR

con instosis moddato mio ho mediamente 2.1 time tower in mano

con instosis std ho mediamente 1.5 time tower in mano

direi che la differenza vale il quanta in più che spendo a giocare le sundial, no?
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513585#msg513585
« Reply #1197 on: June 21, 2012, 08:55:37 pm »
ma un +rep a tom che sa queste cose e ve le spiega per bene a parole non era più semplice?

cmq ho fatto la simula sul link di RR

con instosis moddato mio ho mediamente 2.1 time tower in mano

con instosis std ho mediamente 1.5 time tower in mano

direi che la differenza vale il quanta in più che spendo a giocare le sundial, no?

Io lo giocavo con sundial unup, una tower in più e un elecrum hourglassess in meno!
Se no col quanta ero troppo tirato!

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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513586#msg513586
« Reply #1198 on: June 21, 2012, 08:58:13 pm »
ma un +rep a tom che sa queste cose e ve le spiega per bene a parole non era più semplice?

cmq ho fatto la simula sul link di RR

con instosis moddato mio ho mediamente 2.1 time tower in mano

con instosis std ho mediamente 1.5 time tower in mano

direi che la differenza vale il quanta in più che spendo a giocare le sundial, no?
Non sono bravo nella matematica dei quanta, io vado a occhio.
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Re: Italiani! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40790.msg513587#msg513587
« Reply #1199 on: June 21, 2012, 09:00:20 pm »
per avere un'idea io gioco con:

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chimera e sky blitz non ho voglia di upparle, le sundial sono unup apposta per quanto dicevo

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