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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248088#msg248088
« Reply #288 on: January 15, 2011, 12:23:31 pm »
Secondo me
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Questa è la variante migliore del CCYB. Le ho provate praticamente tutte le variazioni utili.
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248139#msg248139
« Reply #289 on: January 15, 2011, 01:50:59 pm »
Torno a farmi sentire dopo un (bel) po'...

Io al momento per farmare i FG uso una variante del CCYB e mi trovo abbastanza bene...

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Questo invece ha qualche risorsa in +, al prezzo che capita che non giri...

Non avendo elite queen, ne la voglia di upparla, il fractal è per strategie di assedio di massa con creature dell'avversario, e di solito funzionano...

Comunque è assai gradito qualsiasi consiglio per incrementare il win rate, che al momento attesto a stima intorno al 50% scarso, non avendo abbastanza tempo per giocare da fornire dati più precisi...
Tom non te la prendere ma il tuo deck mi sembra un incrocio tr il CCYB e un'accozzglia di carte messe a caso XD, sicuramente il CCYB può essere modificato in alcune sue parti a discrezione del giocatore ma che te ne fai del purify?? ci sono già le SoG che ti aiutano in caso di veleno, per gli steal hai già i pulverizer, i twin universe sinceramente.. BOH?!? come pensi du usare il fractal sui lava destroyer senza il quantum rosso delle elite firefly?? :(

Comunque magari mi sbaglio e non ho capito niente io su questo deck ^^

Quotone. Il purify non serve a niente, gli unici  due FGs che usano il veleno (in modo serio) sono Morte e Scorpio (Elidnis in confronto ne usa mooolto meno...): con il CCYB standard Morte è facilmente battibile ed 1 purify solo contro Scorpio non serve a niente...

I PA sono già più utili, anche se a protezione di arma e scudo ci sono gli Electrum Hourglasses (i FGs con PC prima attaccano quelli...)

Una buona modifica del CCYB può essere questa (credo sia la versione grind)

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PS: personalmente rimuoverei l'Improved Heal per aggiungere una seconda Aflatoxin...
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Questa è la variante migliore del CCYB. Le ho provate praticamente tutte le variazioni utili.
Non capisco perché entrambi usiate 3 scudi.. 2 Permafrost Shield e un Jade Shield mi sembrano eccessivi a prima vista, ma comunque proverò entrambe le versioni ^^

Io comunque al posto del Aflatoxin uso il Plaque che secondo me contro decay è molto più efficace visto che costa molto meno e se dopo il suo primo fractal riesci a usarlo hai praticamente vinto.  In più spesso ci inserisco una fire storm che anche se costa un pò (7) è comunque quantum rosso che è facile da avere grazie alle elite firefly.

Che ne pensate?

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248172#msg248172
« Reply #290 on: January 15, 2011, 03:03:02 pm »
ciao a tutti scusate se interrompo le post sul CCWB con una cosa che non centra niente
volevo solo fare un piccolo sondaggino tra i frequentatori di questo topic tipo
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cosi giusto per curiosità  ;D (se invece vi sembra che sta cosa qui non faccia nientaltro che riempire il topic inutilmente fatemelo sapere che cancello questa post)
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248231#msg248231
« Reply #291 on: January 15, 2011, 04:58:11 pm »
Grazie per i consigli...

Cmq proseguendo sulla linea di sirio, che in effetti può essere inserita in un post e contemporaneamente parlare di CCWB...

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248258#msg248258
« Reply #292 on: January 15, 2011, 06:01:16 pm »
Non capisco perché entrambi usiate 3 scudi.. 2 Permafrost Shield e un Jade Shield mi sembrano eccessivi a prima vista, ma comunque proverò entrambe le versioni ^^

Io comunque al posto del Aflatoxin uso il Plaque che secondo me contro decay è molto più efficace visto che costa molto meno e se dopo il suo primo fractal riesci a usarlo hai praticamente vinto.  In più spesso ci inserisco una fire storm che anche se costa un pò (7) è comunque quantum rosso che è facile da avere grazie alle elite firefly.

Che ne pensate?


Il CCYB è fondamentalmente un mazzo stall. Le carte possiamo dividerle in:

Vitali: Permafrost Shields (riduce di 2 il danno e congela), SoGs (+5 HPs ogni turno, 6x5 = +30 HPs ogni turno). Lo stall è dato essenzialmente da queste due carte, perciò di permafrost ce ne servono almeno due copie...

Supernovae e Towers: vitali, senza quanta non si va da nessuna parte...

Importanti:
Antimatters. A metà strada tra l'importante e il vitale...(NB: se la uso su un vampire potenziato da un eclipse e poi rimuovo eclipse, il vampire diventerà un -8/3 che curerà noi e danneggierà l'avversario...)

Jade Shield. Considerando che molti FGs hanno la possibilità di far male con danni diretti (Hermes, Octane, Decay, ecc...), uno scudo riflettente è necessario, e tra la le due opzioni (Jade Shield e Mirror) la scelta mi sembra obbligata...

Pulverizers. Con questo togliamo tutti i permanent fastidiosi, armi, scudi, etc...

Aflatoxins. Riempie il campo avversario con creature 1/1. I nostri scudi riducono il danno di 2. Fate voi i conti...

Electrum hourglasses. Non avendo un eternity, il rischio di deck-out c'è sempre con il CCYB, specie con tutti quei FGs  miracle-muniti. Sono però ottimi come "specchio per le allodole" per tutti i FGs con explosions/steals, nell'attesa di pescare un Protect Artifact.

Quintessence. Inutile se il FG non ha CC, fondamentale se ce l'ha (sono solo 3 i FGs senza CC...)

Fractal. Da usare sulla creatura che ci permette di ottimizzare il danno in rapporto ai quanta disponibili...

Protect Artifact. Da usare preferibilmente su un pulvy...


Creature:

Lava Destroyer. Da giocarne uno (+ quintessence) il prima possibile. Il secondo si tiene in mano e possibilmente lo di frattalizza...

Elite Queen. La fonte dei :fire necessari al fractal dei LD. Considerando che a volte il fractal non serve (o si usa creature diverse dai LD), la EQ è forse la carta meno importante del mazzo...


Questa è la versione che ho usato oggi...e mi sono trovato davvero bene...

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248304#msg248304
« Reply #293 on: January 15, 2011, 06:35:26 pm »
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Sono molto più forte di quello che mostrano le mie stats.
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248337#msg248337
« Reply #294 on: January 15, 2011, 06:58:52 pm »
37570 score, 1704 vittorie e 548 perse. zero ninfe( tutte vendute!!!  :)) ), 652 carte e 50 uppate!

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248356#msg248356
« Reply #295 on: January 15, 2011, 07:22:44 pm »
Come mai siete tutti cosi pieni di nymphs?
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248357#msg248357
« Reply #296 on: January 15, 2011, 07:24:54 pm »
Come mai siete tutti cosi pieni di nymphs?
Io tutte quelle che avevo le ho prese dall'oracolo...almeno 4-5

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248448#msg248448
« Reply #297 on: January 15, 2011, 09:20:30 pm »
Nella mia versione del CCYB uso la purple nymph invece di antimatter, magari meno shard aggiungendo heal. Che ne pensate?
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« Reply #298 on: January 15, 2011, 09:25:12 pm »
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg248548#msg248548
« Reply #299 on: January 15, 2011, 10:44:06 pm »
Come mai siete tutti cosi pieni di nymphs?
io pure tutte dall'oracolo, i tornei non riesco a farli
ps:complimenti ravinrabbit per il torneo

ne approfitto di questa post per lanciare un'idea (magari stupida).
di solito non si augura buona fortuna xchè porta male (almeno cosi dicono, io non ci credo ma non si sa mai ::)) quindi si usano frasi tipo
in bocca al lupo
in culo alla balena
in groppa al riccio ecc. ecc.
ma per chi partecipa ai tornei sarebbe carino qualcosa che centri con elements, non so tipo
che gli elementi siano con te (rubato da star-war ;))
che l'oracolo ti assista (in culo all'oracolo non mi sembrava carino :)))
postate le vostre idee e se vi va ne sceliamo una

 

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