HUGE nerd about superhero Movies. Might be the only one posting here but no one else i know irl like them as much as i do.
So Hugh Jackman and Sir Patrick Stewart just won World Records for longest careers as Marvel Superheroes. Totaling 16 years and 228 days. I personally loved most of the X-Men movies so i am happy to hear this. I think Robert Downey Jr. as IronMan or Sir Ian Mckellen as Magneto would be next in terms as longest running career. RDJ could easily beat it if he stays for 2 more movies but it is highly implausible.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/02/20/hugh-jackman-patrick-stewart-guniess-world-record-marvel-careers/
What did everyone think of Endgame? Personally, i was slightly disappointed; but my hopes were set pretty high from Infinity War. I have seen it about 6 times and while multiple viewings did help, i was still pretty disappointed.
This is a cinematic milestone that took 21 movies to lead up to this. This hasnt been done before in the history on cinematography. Many people havent seen it yet so to be courteous to them, if you are going to talk about the movie in detail, please put it in a spoiler tag.
The first 20 min i enjoyed. The beheading of Thanos, Captain Marvel being introduced to the Avengers, the aftermath of the snap was all enjoyable. However, after that, it turned into a cliche time travel movie. "We are going back in time, dont talk to yourselves, dont mess anything up, dont..." its been done a million times and I was very disappointed at this part. Its probably my 2nd least favorite part of the whole movie. The first being Thor. What.The.Actual.Fuck. Fat Thor. Seriously? It was kinda funny at first but it really ruined his atmosphere in the final battle, or really any scene that included him. It is speculated that they did this to nerf Thor. However, his fighting and powers were not affected by his weight, so that simply cannot be true. It was a stupid joke that fell flat and was detrimental to the movie. The final battle however was superb. Imo, it really redeemed the movie. I loved Pots in an Iron Suit. POPs figurines are calling her Rescue. The Iron Man arch was wrapped up nicely. Spider-Man Far From Home is supposed to wrap up the Infinity Stone Saga so that should shine some light on even more Post-Snap aftermath, Iron Mans death, etc. Breaking it down in the 3 hours, i would say Hour 1: 4/5, 2nd Hour: 1/5, 3rd Hour: 5/5. Your thoughts?
I liked how the movie gave character development for most of the cast who survived the snap (Nebula, Iron Man, Technically Freya since she died before the snap) The time travel segment was cliche, but I liked the fact that Thor and Tony Stark got to talk to Freya and Howard respectively. I also prefer how they presented the actual process of time travel as multiverse travel, since it makes a much better system of time travel than something that incorporates the butterfly effect or ripple effect. The scene with all of the female superheroes guarding Captain Marvel didn't really make as much sense once I thought about it after the movie ended. Most of the female superheroes already show traits of being just as brave/powerful as the male superheroes were, so it really wasn't needed. If anything, Nebula should've been at the center of the group. Captain Marvel is powerful enough to take care of the army charging at her, so she wouldn't even need cover. Besides, a good chunk of the movie was dedicated to her character, so it makes more sense.
I see it as like a 7/10. Not the best Marvel movie I seen, but it's still pretty good.
to get back on trackdont do it math
i enjoyed endgame alot more than i expected to.
I liked the defeated tone they opened with; tony monolouging to his broken helmet about how he had to try to save the world even tho he had a life with pepper beginning to start, begins to foreshadow his eventual self sacrifice. it was quickly undercut by a humorous scene but oh well. the killing of thanos and 5 year time jump caught me by suprise and i got really excited not knowing what to expect, the time jump was basically expected but killing thanos outright was not. On the whole the first act was surprisingly dark with how broken the remaining cast were and i quite liked that. was not really on board for the time heist, they say that time travel doesn't work the way it does in back to the future and namedrop literally a dozen other timetravel movies and then they fuck up their own timetravel rules super hard. There are so many hanging threads, whats going on with loki and the tesseract, surely that cant be good for that universe the 2012 time and mind stones came from? An elevator full of 2012 hydra agents think that Steve is a part of hydra now or at the very least think Steve knows they are hydra, how could this not be addressed after the cliche rule of not talking to your past self was established. This didnt strike me as a problem at the time because the first act has already emotionally drained me and the 'heil hydra' line was too much fun in the moment but on reflection it became a problem for me. Also didnt like that the time travel that was inevitable come from ant man rather than the time stone. this leaves time travel as an option in every future movie and it is not the messy possibility i wanted for the MCU. I would have prefered that the time travel soloution was powered by the stones and that the stones were then all destroyed again for the safety of the universe. Third act was a blast of pure fan service and i loved it. was worth seeing in theaters just for crowd reaction of cap wielding mjolinr. have so much respect for the writers by having pepper say 'you can rest now' instead of [itll be okay.] Even tho i normally have a hard time separating character from actress with Pepper because Gwenth Paltrow is such a cow that line still hit me so hard 10/10. where was the post credit scene of cap returning the soul stone reeee.
in regard to thor
i have seen a lot of outrage about 2023 thor about how they were playing his drunkenness off for a laugh and that the joke went on too long but i disagree.
Thor is one of the most tragic characters in the MCU and his character explores loss;
(its been ages since ive seen thor 1) but his story starts with his arrogance ruining a truce between asguardians and the frost giants, his father who he respects strips him of his birthright of throne, his godly powers, only being able to use his hammer again once he was "worthy"
Lets examine where thor is at just before the time jump: His mother is dead. His father is dead. His thoughts about his father are shattered after he has learnt that the peace on asguard was won through bloody war and imprisonment of his sister whos existence was kept secret from him. His sister is dead. His brother is dead. His homeworld is destroyed. half his people were killed. Then infinity war starts, Thor thinks of himself as the strongest avenger and has at this point lost more to thanos than any other avenger so feels the responsibility to take thanos out is on him, he comes painfully close to killing to stopping thanos before the snap but he missed his chance. it is important that this defeat was not a lack of strength on thors part but simply a missed oppotunity to aim for the head and stop thanos outright. HALF HIS PEOPLE DIE AGAIN. half the universe is dead and thor feels as if the blame is on him. he stews in his rage for 3 weeks knowing thanos is out there somewhere with the stones and that it is up to him to avenge the universe. Then on titan II they find thanos and the stones are destroyed, thors one shot to fix his mistake is gone and he kills thanos, half the universe is gone irreversibly and so is thors enemies. thor had been constantly fighting since ragnorok and had not processed all he has lost ( hammer. father, image of father, broher, sister, 3/4's of his people and his homeland) he had constantly had an active enemy to chase but in this 3 weeks between the snap and titan II he had been stewing on anger with his failures. when he killed thanos there was nothing for that anger to do, and how did thor react?
It broke him
he has no hammer to see if he was worthy (important to note that his self worth is tied to his ability to lift his hammer) he is living with the last of the asguardians on earth in the location where his father died. he has no hope of redemption. this is truly a tragic place for his character and it is no wonder why he has slipped into alcoholism and depression. If i were to change how thor was done in the movie i would want to see the themes of finally dealing with emotional baggage, alcoholism and depression explored more than what they did. I wouldve like to have seen an even more broken thor but they still went suprisingly far with broken thor for a movie that needs to sell to 8 year olds
this is what makes the is the end of the third act make sense for thor. He has his hammer back and with that his self worth and confidence and just as importantly he has an enemy to fight again. Thor is a warrior.