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Title: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on May 18, 2011, 03:07:58 pm
Hi all,   :D

this is relatively simple, this Is a little Game/Competition where people choose a character, challenge another submitted character and debate who would win in a One-on-One battle.

RULES AND EXPLANATIONS:

Choose a Anime/Manga character
from any Anime/Manga
Post the character here
, it would preferable to post it along with a spoilered brief explanation on powers and abilities of character, so then no-one is confused.
they MUST have links to reliable and official info on their profile.

THEN

someone else, will choose an Anime/Manga character, to challenge the desired competing Anime/Manga character

A discussion on who would beat who then Begins!

This means that all those wishing to post a character afterward will have to wait until the discussion is finished.
In the meanwhile, Pm me with the desired character so then I will post the Character in an awaiting list.

anyone who wants to choose a character  to challenge the one in the awaiting list, should pm me, so then I can post an incoming discussion based on those two characters.
The list will be ticked off in order as we proceed.

Rules:

1: Please, No Flaming and No offensive language

2: NO Unsupported evidence of Major implications, example: Batman having the ability to fly.
It must be supported by some kind of evidence, a link to the info would suffice and be best. otherwise it is disregarded.
this goes aswell for Character enlisting, they MUST have links to reliable and official info on their profile.

3: Specificity, you have to be specific, example : Batman can fly.
That is not specific, a more specific implication can be: Batman can fly in his bat wing (Air craft).

Remember! This is a discussion battle thread for those that AT LEAST have basic knowledge of the Anime/Manga world.
in more blunt terms, no noobs or nooby implications

ALSO:

People who post characters here in the period of a battle in progress, Have the option to choose whom they want to challenge in the pending character list on Opening Page (OP)ONLY IF there is more than one character waiting.
If they wish to wait for another challenger and place themselves in the waiting list, they may do so by PMing me.

When there is no battle active: the first two characters posted challenge each other automatically.
IF there are only 2 characters in awaiting list at the end of a battle, they challenge each other automatically.
IF there are 4 or more characters in awaiting list at the end of a battle, The people must choose whom they want to fight,
The choices are in order by value. For example: IF character A and B wish to challenge character C, and D is left out, Whomever out of Character A and B asked me if they could challenge C last, has to challenge character D.

People whom have finished a Battle May Re-apply to Anime/Manga Character Battle, but with a different Character.


Thats all there is to rules...


IMPORTANT NOTE: Outside people are allowed to comment, but are only allowed a Maximum 3 posts per battle.
they have to leave the arguing to the contestants, so we can't have them take over for anyone or seem like they are.

Also, Once the Battle Period is Over, There will be a Poll placed, for people to vote Based on the arguments made.


have fun!!! :)

here is the list, it will be constantly edited as events take place:
Current CharacterChallenging Current Character
Sousuke Sagara                                               
Time left:
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Awaiting CharacterChallenging Character
                                                                   
                                                                   
Extra info:
If you liked this one or are wondering if there is a comic version of this, then there is Comic Book Character thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25861.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on May 20, 2011, 02:13:04 am
I'll start this off :-)
Tezca Tlipoca (http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Tezca_Tlipoca)

From the manga soul eater.

So he's a powerful dude. Uses illusions and can turn into a mirror to track and trick his enemies. His partner is a monkey named Enrique. Tezca also wears masks (see my current avi). He has only shown a little bit of his combat tricks, but considering what happened in the last chapter (chapter 86) I'm not sure how much more we'll see of him.  Justin killed him
Also for the battle aspect, Enrique will be battling along side him, because who wouldn't want to be fighting alongside your monkey partner
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 03, 2011, 01:51:17 pm
Shikamaru Nara (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shikamaru_Nara)
can stop you in your tracks with his shadow, as well as cut you to pieces. is aided by is intellect.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 03, 2011, 06:20:30 pm
The first Battle begins!!!

Tezca Tlipoca

VS

Shikamaru Nara


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Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 03, 2011, 07:19:16 pm
This is an easy win for tezca. His powers revolve around reflecting light and illusions, he's a nightmare matchup for a guy like shikamaru. Tezca is also quite brilliant, and not exactly a predictable character. Shikamaru has had many fights against genjutsu style users, but never one as direct as tezca. Shikamaru's brilliance would give him an advantage in the fight, I'd give him that, but Tezca's is 1.) Superior purely in fighting style. 2.) Has the ability to prevent shikamaru from escaping and forming new plans (Demon mirror) (http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Tezca_Tlipoca) and 3.) Is much more dangerous simply because he can transform his body.

As shown in Shikamaru's fight against Tayuya, Tayuya was still able to manipulate her form, even under a shadow bind. Tezca's a mirror. If there is any sort of sunlight around, Tezca simply transforms and makes the shadow disappear. If there is no sunlight around, Tezca is tricky enough (and smart enough) not to engage shikamaru directly in disadvantageous circumstances, even by faking his own death (like he did against Justin Law).

Tezca has all the advantage over Shikamaru (who by the way is my favorite character in naruto)
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: tttt on June 03, 2011, 07:53:40 pm
The Shikamaru guy would win. Why, you unwittingly might ask?
Because Shikamaru is an animal tamer and trainer. And what is the other guy - a bear head. Yes, a bear! Hence, it is susceptible to Shikamaru's taming skill.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 03, 2011, 08:10:53 pm
The Shikamaru guy would win. Why, you unwittingly might ask?
Because Shikamaru is an animal tamer and trainer. And what is the other guy - a bear head. Yes, a bear! Hence, it is susceptible to Shikamaru's taming skill.
I think you're thinking of Kiba...
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 04, 2011, 02:01:47 pm
The Shikamaru guy would win. Why, you unwittingly might ask?
Because Shikamaru is an animal tamer and trainer. And what is the other guy - a bear head. Yes, a bear! Hence, it is susceptible to Shikamaru's taming skill.
I think you're thinking of Kiba...
he is, but shikamaru would win because of the fact that he does not only rely on his ninjutsu, he is also equipped with multiple weapons and is an expert at bluffing, also, it is impossible to transform into something that has absolutely no shadow, and even if hi bends light away, since shadows are the absence of light, it would still work, and even if they were fighting in total darkness, shikamaru would be able to CREATE shadows, using exploding paper slips,and he would then take advantage of that time to use his shadow to immobilize and destroy tezca.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 03:32:56 pm
The Shikamaru guy would win. Why, you unwittingly might ask?
Because Shikamaru is an animal tamer and trainer. And what is the other guy - a bear head. Yes, a bear! Hence, it is susceptible to Shikamaru's taming skill.
I think you're thinking of Kiba...
he is, but shikamaru would win because of the fact that he does not only rely on his ninjutsu, he is also equipped with multiple weapons and is an expert at bluffing, also, it is impossible to transform into something that has absolutely no shadow, and even if hi bends light away, since shadows are the absence of light, it would still work, and even if they were fighting in total darkness, shikamaru would be able to CREATE shadows, using exploding paper slips,and he would then take advantage of that time to use his shadow to immobilize and destroy tezca.
As shown by Temari in the chunin exam, the shadows have a limited range. And again, even if Tezca get's caught in the shadow he can just transform part of his body into the mirror and focus the light directly on the shadow, evaporating it. Unless he's able to instantly kill Tezca with a shadow, the bind becomes useless. It's quite hard to kill the demon mirror, and he's a fighter designed to avoid being caught (creating his clones and transforming his body to avoid attacks).
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 04, 2011, 04:19:31 pm
he is, but shikamaru would win because of the fact that he does not only rely on his ninjutsu, he is also equipped with multiple weapons and is an expert at bluffing, also, it is impossible to transform into something that has absolutely no shadow, and even if hi bends light away, since shadows are the absence of light, it would still work, and even if they were fighting in total darkness, shikamaru would be able to CREATE shadows, using exploding paper slips,and he would then take advantage of that time to use his shadow to immobilize and destroy tezca.
As shown by Temari in the chunin exam, the shadows have a limited range. And again, even if Tezca get's caught in the shadow he can just transform part of his body into the mirror and focus the light directly on the shadow, evaporating it. Unless he's able to instantly kill Tezca with a shadow, the bind becomes useless. It's quite hard to kill the demon mirror, and he's a fighter designed to avoid being caught (creating his clones and transforming his body to avoid attacks).
For all the yellow statements, there needs to be a link to the page that mentions it, including a spoilered' quote from the page.
(despite the fact that those are mentioned in the profile pages, there still needs to be quotes and links so the "jury"[people who vote] can decide the winner of this battle which will be decided in votes and the criteria will most likely be all the proof shown, which is why it is essential to provide links and quotes with all statements so people don't have to go back to previous pages to re-check the statements, thank you).


Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 04:28:15 pm
Proof.

Quote
Temari gets pissed again, thinking that Shikomaru is underestnimating her, and uses her main move, Sickling Winds. A HUGE gust of wind heads towards Shikomaru cutting up the trees around him. From the dust cloud Shikomaru's shadow stretches out for Temari. She flips back a few times and the shadow falls short by a few inches. Temari marks a line in the ground. She realizes that shikomaru has a limit to the distance, size, and transform his shadow.
Link (http://www.narutoworld.com/battlesummary.php?ID=262)
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 04, 2011, 04:33:20 pm
he is, but shikamaru would win because of the fact that he does not only rely on his ninjutsu, he is also equipped with multiple weapons and is an expert at bluffing, also, it is impossible to transform into something that has absolutely no shadow, and even if hi bends light away, since shadows are the absence of light, it would still work, and even if they were fighting in total darkness, shikamaru would be able to CREATE shadows, using exploding paper slips,and he would then take advantage of that time to use his shadow to immobilize and destroy tezca.
As shown by Temari in the chunin exam, the shadows have a limited range. And again, even if Tezca get's caught in the shadow he can just transform part of his body into the mirror and focus the light directly on the shadow, evaporating it. Unless he's able to instantly kill Tezca with a shadow, the bind becomes useless. It's quite hard to kill the demon mirror, and he's a fighter designed to avoid being caught (creating his clones and transforming his body to avoid attacks).
For all the yellow statements, there needs to be a link to the page that mentions it, including a spoilered' quote from the page.
(despite the fact that those are mentioned in the profile pages, there still needs to be quotes and links so the "jury"[people who vote] can decide the winner of this battle which will be decided in votes and the criteria will most likely be all the proof shown, which is why it is essential to provide links and quotes with all statements so people don't have to go back to previous pages to re-check the statements, thank you).
proof
[in the legend of stone gelel, shikamaru bluffs his opponent to death, employing fake, as well as real, exploding slips]
Also, shikamaru is able to transform, as well as form (illusionary) clones
proof
[To pass the genin exams, young ninjas must be able to both transform as well as to produce 3 clones.]
I'll ad links if i can find the chapters.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 05:13:44 pm
And both of those facts are pointless again. Tezca, as a Death Scythe can use basic soul perception. If he is reflecting a soul, the soul perception is improved. Improved soul perception allows someone to see through simple illusions and tell if someone is lying or telling the truth.

Quote
Soul Tracking: As stated by Tezca himself, he is also capable of locating the exact position of the soul belonging to any person that has been "reflected" on a previous occasion, regardless of how much distance there is between the targeted individual's actual location.[6] It has not been divulged as to whether this ability is still able to function while a witch's Soul Protect is in effect, however, there remains circumstances where its usage can be inhibited.[7]
http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Tezca_Tlipoca (http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Tezca_Tlipoca)

Quote
The Soul Perception Ability (魂感知能力, Tamashii Kanchi Nōryoku) is a technique used by humans in the Soul Eater universe. While practically any meister, weapon and in some cases normal human can see the souls of the deceased, this unique ability allows a person to "perceive" the souls of living people.
By focusing on an individual soul, a skilled Soul Perception practitioner can actually "read" a soul and make accurate judgments about the person's characteristics, personality and wavelength. Knowing the wavelength of a soul can allow a skilled meister to match or disrupt the opponent's wavelength in or outside of combat.
http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Perception
 (http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Perception)
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 04, 2011, 05:29:36 pm
is tezca able to deflect real objects?
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 05:30:34 pm
Deflect or reflect?
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 04, 2011, 05:39:22 pm
either
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 05:42:14 pm
Tezca has not been shown to do either, but due to the destructive power he has when reflecting sunlight, he can always just zap em
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 04, 2011, 05:46:31 pm
in that case, wouldn't it simply be mutually assured destruction, as shikamaru would throw a kunia/shruiken at him and pierce him through the head, but then be obliterated by his sunlight?
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 05:53:29 pm
Or Tezca just fires it big enough to destroy/reflect any kunai as well...

Tezca wins.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Nepycros on June 04, 2011, 06:41:01 pm
Or Tezca just fires it big enough to destroy/reflect any kunai as well...

Tezca wins.
Exploding tag.

Basically, I'm wondering if you can destroy an explosion with sunlight. ;) If not, we've got ourselves a winner.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 04, 2011, 06:51:54 pm
1.) Has an exploding tag actually killed anyone in the naruto series? No? Okay.

2.) He survived this, so yeah I'm pretty sure he can survive exploding paper
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110115205945/souleater/images/thumb/1/19/Tezca%27s_Death.png/800px-Tezca%27s_Death.png)

After effect
http://www.mangareader.net/157-58092-16/soul-eater/chapter-79.html (http://www.mangareader.net/157-58092-16/soul-eater/chapter-79.html)

Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 06, 2011, 10:39:48 pm
in fact, shikamaru "killed" hidan with exploding tags in his battle against him.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 07, 2011, 01:12:27 am
1. Hidan didn't die (probably because he couldn''t)
2. That's because there were upwards of 50 exploding tags, razor wire and a pit trap.
3. It's also because Hidan fell into shikamaru's trap, something Tezca wouldn't do.
4. Hidan was also immobilized first, which is something that couldn't happen to Tezca.

Tezca > Shikamaru
Tezca > Exploding tags
Tezca > Shikamaru + Exploding Tags
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Nepycros on June 07, 2011, 02:07:52 am
1. Hidan didn't die (probably because he couldn''t)
2. That's because there were upwards of 50 exploding tags, razor wire and a pit trap.
3. It's also because Hidan fell into shikamaru's trap, something Tezca wouldn't do.
4. Hidan was also immobilized first, which is something that couldn't happen to Tezca.

Tezca > Shikamaru
Tezca > Exploding tags
Tezca > Shikamaru + Exploding Tags
Tezca < Fake Exploding Tags that are imbued with Shikamaru's Shadow Chakra to immobilize him for the slight moment in which the ground beneath him would be decimated, throwing him into a pit of absolute and total darkness, whereas Shikamaru would seal the top of the hole, and ignite the 150 real exploding tags that are set up in the tiny cavern Tezca can't escape from.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 07, 2011, 02:12:26 am
TIMES UP!

Voting now commences
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: gavsword on June 07, 2011, 02:18:24 am
1. Hidan didn't die (probably because he couldn''t)
2. That's because there were upwards of 50 exploding tags, razor wire and a pit trap.
3. It's also because Hidan fell into shikamaru's trap, something Tezca wouldn't do.
4. Hidan was also immobilized first, which is something that couldn't happen to Tezca.

Tezca > Shikamaru
Tezca > Exploding tags
Tezca > Shikamaru + Exploding Tags
Tezca < Fake Exploding Tags that are imbued with Shikamaru's Shadow Chakra to immobilize him for the slight moment in which the ground beneath him would be decimated, throwing him into a pit of absolute and total darkness, whereas Shikamaru would seal the top of the hole, and ignite the 150 real exploding tags that are set up in the tiny cavern Tezca can't escape from.
You mean exactly what Shikamaru did to Hidan? By setting up his location first (which Tezca wouldn't let happen), the use all kinds of traps designed to immobilize a target (which Tezca is pretty much immune to) and then trigger his trap (when Tezca could create illusions to make shikamaru trigger his trap early, making Shikamaru vulnerable and well, dead.)

I really wish I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again saying that Tezca will not be immobilized by Shikamaru's shadow bind.
I really wish I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again saying that Tezca will set up a battlefield designed for him, not for Shikamaru.

Look, I love Shikamaru as a character too, but the fact is his powers, as designed, cannot beat Tezca.

I'd really love to not lose this argument simply because Naruto is a better know manga than Soul Eater. Frankly no one has proposed a point based on Shikamaru's abilities that Tezca could not counter.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 07, 2011, 02:33:12 am
1. Hidan didn't die (probably because he couldn''t)
2. That's because there were upwards of 50 exploding tags, razor wire and a pit trap.
3. It's also because Hidan fell into shikamaru's trap, something Tezca wouldn't do.
4. Hidan was also immobilized first, which is something that couldn't happen to Tezca.

Tezca > Shikamaru
Tezca > Exploding tags
Tezca > Shikamaru + Exploding Tags
Tezca < Fake Exploding Tags that are imbued with Shikamaru's Shadow Chakra to immobilize him for the slight moment in which the ground beneath him would be decimated, throwing him into a pit of absolute and total darkness, whereas Shikamaru would seal the top of the hole, and ignite the 150 real exploding tags that are set up in the tiny cavern Tezca can't escape from.
You mean exactly what Shikamaru did to Hidan? By setting up his location first (which Tezca wouldn't let happen), the use all kinds of traps designed to immobilize a target (which Tezca is pretty much immune to) and then trigger his trap (when Tezca could create illusions to make shikamaru trigger his trap early, making Shikamaru vulnerable and well, dead.)

I really wish I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again saying that Tezca will not be immobilized by Shikamaru's shadow bind.
I really wish I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again saying that Tezca will set up a battlefield designed for him, not for Shikamaru.

Look, I love Shikamaru as a character too, but the fact is his powers, as designed, cannot beat Tezca.

I'd really love to not lose this argument simply because Naruto is a better know manga than Soul Eater. Frankly no one has proposed a point based on Shikamaru's abilities that Tezca could not counter.
I thought I said Time is up, no more posting k? voting time.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 10, 2011, 01:01:59 pm
well, as shikamaru won, i'd like to enter the next battle using rygart, from break blade, equippd with dirge, his golemn, whith dirge in heavy armor mode.
(http://6.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/2652/10-050.2/compressed/e33.jpg)
his golemn is the one with the huge sword, about the kill the black golemn. Even though his golemn, named dirge, is huge, it is surprisingly agile.
info on the break blade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Blade) manga.
waiting for the next contestant!
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Nepycros on June 11, 2011, 04:55:19 am
I suppose I'll add my own theory:

Sousuke Sagara, protagonist of Full Metal Panic, pilots a massive Mech called an Arm Slave, in the organization MITHRIL. His Arm Slave, ARX-7 Arbalest, has several different weapons altogether, contains cloaking capabilities, and also has a Lambda Driver, which allows him to utilize insanely powerful energies using his own willpower.

Lambda Driver specs (http://full-metal-panic.animeshinobi.com/fmp_terms.html#Lambda_Driver)

Not only this, but Sousuke Sagara is a child guerilla warrior: Guerilla history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousuke_Sagara#Character_history)

His Arm Slave, altogether, is a badass vehicle, that he pilots with superb skill. ARX-7 Arbalest (http://fullmetalpanic.wikia.com/wiki/ARX-7_Arbalest)

And his hand-to-hand combat skills are off-the-charts.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: nerd1 on June 11, 2011, 01:20:58 pm
actually, i am going to retract my entry, because i just realized that there was no way he could win.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 14, 2011, 06:01:30 am
Shikamaru has WON the first Anime battle!

any new contestants?
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Nepycros on June 14, 2011, 06:02:49 am
I suppose I'll add my own theory:

Sousuke Sagara, protagonist of Full Metal Panic, pilots a massive Mech called an Arm Slave, in the organization MITHRIL. His Arm Slave, ARX-7 Arbalest, has several different weapons altogether, contains cloaking capabilities, and also has a Lambda Driver, which allows him to utilize insanely powerful energies using his own willpower.

Lambda Driver specs (http://full-metal-panic.animeshinobi.com/fmp_terms.html#Lambda_Driver)

Not only this, but Sousuke Sagara is a child guerilla warrior: Guerilla history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousuke_Sagara#Character_history)

His Arm Slave, altogether, is a badass vehicle, that he pilots with superb skill. ARX-7 Arbalest (http://fullmetalpanic.wikia.com/wiki/ARX-7_Arbalest)

And his hand-to-hand combat skills are off-the-charts.
Title: Re: Anime/Manga Character Battle Thread!
Post by: Flayne on June 14, 2011, 06:05:17 am
editted table:

CURRENT CHALLENGER : Sousuke Sagara

Who will challenge Sousuke Sagara?
blarg: