Post by: majofa on July 13, 2010, 07:13:13 pm
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
Post by: RavingRabbid on October 10, 2010, 07:09:38 pm
Chain Dimensional Shields. Spread the Purifies out so that you don't die from Poison. You'll need 113 :fire to win in one turn with Fire Bolts.I guess I'm just idiot, but how would a Fractal-Doll + Dimshields + Purify work?Code: [Select]5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 11, 2010, 09:42:50 am
just a theory though, why dont you try it out and see how well your idea turns out first?
Post by: Nume on October 11, 2010, 05:36:50 pm
Post by: Avenger on November 09, 2010, 05:01:22 pm
Post by: majofa on November 09, 2010, 05:37:41 pm
Post by: Mithcairion on November 09, 2010, 06:13:22 pm
Morte doesn't have Vampires .. Incarnate does.Liquid shadow gives a creature the 'vampire' ability in place of whatever ability they may already have as well as poisons them. The idea is that you give one of his creatures the vampire ability, then antimatter it so that they're damaging him and healing you as well as bypassing his bone walls, meanwhile he uses his angels to heal that creature and keep it alive.
I haven't tried this in practice, but it could be part of a larger deck theme. Seems just a little fragile to have to depend on it as a killing strategy, especially with Miracles involved. As a complement, though? I like the idea.
Post by: majofa on November 09, 2010, 06:16:10 pm
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Post by: majofa on November 10, 2010, 08:00:08 pm
Post by: 1world24 on November 16, 2010, 01:58:09 pm
Chain Dimensional Shields. Spread the Purifies out so that you don't die from Poison. You'll need 113 :fire to win in one turn with Fire Bolts.would you be able to add fahrenheit to the deck to have a never ending build up damage?Code: [Select]5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
Post by: RavingRabbid on November 16, 2010, 02:01:31 pm
Bone wall.Chain Dimensional Shields. Spread the Purifies out so that you don't die from Poison. You'll need 113 :fire to win in one turn with Fire Bolts.would you be able to add fahrenheit to the deck to have a never ending build up damage?Code: [Select]5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
Post by: manaboy100 on November 29, 2010, 11:00:06 pm
Post by: icecoldbro on December 05, 2010, 08:04:11 pm
*i used some non significant upgrades*
(http://imageplay.net/m7Gbd108276/morte_thumb.jpg) (http://imageplay.net/es/view/m7Gbd108276/morte)
Post by: chb369 on February 07, 2011, 11:53:41 pm
at the end i wondered if these changes could make a difference:
+1 purify (to make sure you get at least one early)
-3 aether pillars
+1 water pendulum
+1 fire pendulum
this is just my opinion of what might be better but I've never tested it sooo... yeah.
Post by: Stickmasterluke on February 09, 2011, 11:33:24 pm
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7903/mortewin.png)
I won.
And this is the deck that I used.
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Post by: gumbeh on March 10, 2011, 07:39:03 am
A second Pulvy might be worthwhile due to Morte having much more than 2 GY's, but I got lucky and drew my pulvy fairly early. A few of my own cards were unupped only due to my own cash limitations.
Using stolen Graveyards, my own Bone Walls, and Pulvying extra enemy graveyards, I benefited MORE from Morte's Retroviruses (and my own frequently-dying Fireflies) than Morte did. Any time one of my bonewalls looked to be in bad shape, I activated an Armagio to both soak up all/most of the incoming damage as well as generate more bonewall. Keeping a few armagios on the field helped me force Morte to spam Plague, ensuring that my fireflies frequently died to feed my bonewall.
I'm sure that a quinted Oty would also be effective in keeping one's bonewall topped up and generating skellies, but Armagio ended up being very fun and could potentially make one or both quints unnecessary - while FFQ needs a quint, she could potentially be replaced with another Steal, a Boneyard, or even a Phoenix as alternative methods of keeping the bonewall fed.
Post by: Tea is good on April 12, 2011, 10:41:46 am
Post by: deadlyd1001 on April 14, 2011, 07:19:19 pm
I don't get why people don't fully upgrade the firebolt/phase shield deck. I mean, you can basically use it every day.most people have a limited amount of upgrades
they (or at least me) want to upgrade decks that have the most use (in their eyes)
for me those were ccyb and immo rush
this is a situational deck
sorry if i seem rude, but (to me) your wording seemed to imply that upping cards is a trivial act
Post by: Jappert on April 16, 2011, 07:24:41 am
My initial hand had 5 firelances, wich pretty much clogged my hand in early game. I also started to topdeck alot of dim shields and purifies, VERY little fire towers.
This resulted in having to purify to early (I can't discard shields or lances...), wich eventually led to dying to poison before I could get 113 :fire
SIGH
Post by: majofa on April 16, 2011, 08:37:36 am
Post by: Rember on April 16, 2011, 08:31:56 pm
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Comments/revisions by someone more experienced than me appreciated.
e: Any ideas for making a rareless version work without miracles? The above deck works without the pulvies but can't seem to find a way to stay alive without miracles, been trying this
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Post by: majofa on April 17, 2011, 06:58:55 am
Post by: Jappert on April 21, 2011, 07:45:08 am
reasons of losses:
- An uneven distribution of purifies screws you over (all at start or all at bottom is gg), but even with a good distribution, it's tough.
- An uneven distribution of shields kills you.
- Getting the required fire quanta before decking out is hard, especially if you don't get any towers/pillars at the start of the match.
There's just so many things that need to go right for it to work, I don't see this as a plausible counter.
Post by: Bootsza on April 22, 2011, 07:38:57 am
This morning Oracle said Morte and I used this CCYB variant:
Basically: I added momentum to get around bone wall. My air nymph for killing blows with Unstable Gas and 3 purifies. I also tossed out the two sanctuaries I was running and put back some SOGs along with another hourglass to compensate for the extra cards. Alfatoxin is cute so I kept it... helps a bit with his ROL putting out light quanta for his miracles.
I felt much more comfortable with this than with firebolts despite knowing it wasn't optimised by any means and, thanks to a timely purify and anti-matter, I managed an easy-ish EM.
No spin successes though but them's the breaks ;)
Post by: Bhlewos on April 25, 2011, 07:47:43 am
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Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on April 26, 2011, 01:40:45 pm
Post by: xBerzerk on April 27, 2011, 09:20:38 am
Chain Dimensional Shields. Spread the Purifies out so that you don't die from Poison. You'll need 113 :fire to win in one turn with Fire Bolts.Used this one. Started off with only 2 fire pillars and decked out. Didn't have enough :fire quanta by end. :/ Maybe would've lived if Shard of Gratitudes were added? (for an upped version)Code: [Select]5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
Post by: Jappert on April 27, 2011, 05:24:37 pm
Yeah, that deck really isn't a good counter, I'd say we need a new decent Morte counter.Chain Dimensional Shields. Spread the Purifies out so that you don't die from Poison. You'll need 113 :fire to win in one turn with Fire Bolts.Used this one. Started off with only 2 fire pillars and decked out. Didn't have enough :fire quanta by end. :/ Maybe would've lived if Shard of Gratitudes were added? (for an upped version)Code: [Select]5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5ia 5ia 5ia 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
I already explained why, in my previous post.
Post by: majofa on April 27, 2011, 05:44:54 pm
Post by: gumbeh on April 27, 2011, 07:08:06 pm
People keep picking it up and using it (and reporting losing), probably because it looks simpler and cheaper than the better deck.
Edit: just realized that the picture in question is only in post #2 by someone else, well carry on then! Nothing to see here; maybe wouldn't hurt if it was removed though.
Post by: Snopel on May 09, 2011, 06:58:47 am
Post by: Leo on May 09, 2011, 07:22:34 pm
Just a quick question. I have a blue nymph. Would it be wise to trade one nymph tears and a pendulum :air for it or should I just add it in?I'd add it. Nymphs are always good. I left my Purple out of this battle (just finished Morte) because she wouldn't be much of a help.
And.. daamn, I had a tough fight. I used this Light Mark deck posted in this thread AND my pet was, luckily, an Otyugh. hehe , had a fast Gravity production with the quantum pillars and managed to eat most of his creatures, then I got a quint on it...
Almost decked out but I used the Fractal on the Fireflies, to destroy his shield quickly.. when I was about to kill him.. MIRACLE! Luckily he didn't draw his second miracle within the next 5 turns.. and I won with 1 card left in my deck. ;D
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on May 10, 2011, 08:07:52 pm
Post by: ralouf on May 27, 2011, 07:27:16 am
Post by: kirchj33 on June 05, 2011, 07:46:33 am
This morning Oracle said Morte and I used this CCYB variant:This works well, but I would suggest -1 Afla, -1 Eternity, -1 RoL, +1 AM. This helps thin it out some.
Post by: Donot on June 12, 2011, 01:39:48 pm
(The code includes the mark, which currently seems to show up as a "?" card. I chose to leave it in the hopes that the display code gets fixed)
Post by: Zee_n1 on June 14, 2011, 08:07:35 am
Post by: Essence on June 14, 2011, 05:42:38 pm
Same basic theory, but you have to create your own Air Nymphs. There are exactly enough permanent slots to fit 3 different Tower types, 3 SoGs, and 10 Unstable Gasses. That said, it might be wise to add an extra SoG even though you'll never cast it -- just so that you're more certain to draw one early. I also ended up slapping down a Aether Nymph and a Fire Nymph just for fun, though basically all they did was beat their head against the Bone Walls. :)
Post by: majofa on June 14, 2011, 05:46:03 pm
Post by: Essence on June 14, 2011, 05:48:15 pm
Didn't think about half-UG'ing, though. That's a good enough idea that I might add 2 more SoGs back in.
Post by: Bootsza on June 16, 2011, 07:30:08 am
Much better! Worked very smoothly and ended in EM this morning :)
Post by: lskpiano on June 17, 2011, 06:53:17 pm
(I don't know if this post should be here or in Scorpio thread since it relates to both.)
Thanks,
LSK Piano
Edit: Two problems with using UG deck against Scorpio: Deadly Poison goes around shields and Permafrost disables Nymphs.
Post by: EvaRia on June 17, 2011, 07:07:51 pm
Because of how his deck works he can never get past your bone wall and the incredible amount of mass CC means things keep dying.
Only real necessary ups are the SNovas, since shards can be replaced with Sancs now.
HG and Dials work much better upped though.
Post by: ddevans96 on June 20, 2011, 06:16:22 pm
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With no purify in your opening hand, you're going to need to drop the chain earlier - I started it at ~54 HP and 12 poison, and I came dangerously close to dying. Giving him a gigantic bonewall when you unleash your UG's is fun though :P
Post by: manaboy100 on June 23, 2011, 09:22:45 am
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Post by: Avenger on June 26, 2011, 07:34:13 am
I have also not had much luck witht he firebolt deck. I understand the desire to make a deck free of rares / upgrades but it is just very unreliable.This deck would be good, if it is not so quanta starved. Next time i'll drop some heavy weight from it and pack more pillars.
This morning Oracle said Morte and I used this CCYB variant:
Post by: xBerzerk on July 09, 2011, 07:38:31 pm
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and using Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tear on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.Replaced 10 pillars with towers and added 4 SoG.*Code: [Select]4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ig 5ig 5ig 5pu 5pu 5pu 5rl 5rl 5rl 5rl 5rl 5rl 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621
Suffered from hand overload and lack of :aether to play dimensional shields early game.
Felt like I was going to lose the entire time, but SoG saved me and EM'd.
Post by: Higurashi on July 12, 2011, 12:53:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/32hiv.jpg)
As usual when I try to counter FG's, I forget to change from Aether mark. Why anyone puts up a deck on the forums without the mark code is beyond me, but anyway.. as per usual it served to help me (as it did against Gravyton when I apparently got a Purple Nymph for pet. second turn Quint ftw).
Drew some cheap Sundials and tons of Dims to stop Morte completely. I probably could've EM'd him if I wanted to take that risk. The reason I saved the screenshot is because it reminded me of a OTK HB deck with Afla, Mirror Shield, Graveyard, Thunderstorm, UG and Fractal Condors. 9 47|48 Condors? Don't mind if I do.
That there is what's left of Morte's field of Dragons, Angels, Rays and Condors. :>
Post by: Xenocidius on July 20, 2011, 07:35:08 am
I tried to keep it as condense as possible, eliminating unnecessary cards. There could still be a better deck against Morte, and I'll try to think of one.
A possible idea could be Flying Titans. They get around Bone Wall and are almost impossible to kill
Post by: TStar on August 01, 2011, 06:25:55 pm
Post by: ddevans96 on August 02, 2011, 08:29:21 pm
Post by: Xenocidius on August 06, 2011, 01:57:52 am
Post by: Jappert on August 06, 2011, 07:00:36 am
Mono Aether (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23368.0.html) claims a high winrate against him:No purifies or ways to work around bonewall.... really?
I can imagine various ways of getting screwed with mono aether vs Morte. You'd allso have to start chaining fairly early since either Archangels, Arsenic or Bone Dragons will start hurting quite early in the match. His poison damaging through your shield while his bonewalls stall make things worse.
I didn't test this though, just theorycrafting! ::)
Post by: Xenocidius on August 06, 2011, 07:12:14 am
Post by: Masarykoi on August 17, 2011, 11:44:38 am
I used this and it worked great; got a little low at one point, but from there on out it was smooth chaining, and I got back almost up to 50 by the end with a large amount of time left. In other words, if for some odd reason you happen to have 2 blue nymphs and 3 SoGs lying around, but not enough for a fully upped deck, try this out.
Post by: Avenger on August 28, 2011, 07:30:31 am
A possible idea could be Flying Titans. They get around Bone Wall and are almost impossible to killGood idea, though titans are rares.
Post by: ddevans96 on August 28, 2011, 03:44:19 pm
Post by: Beforememory on September 10, 2011, 05:36:46 pm
Just beat him with a 60 variant of the opening post =)
probably wasn't the best way to do it but it worked
Post by: Xamuel on September 12, 2011, 04:45:53 pm
Note: there is a limit to how many permanents you can have out, and it's easy to run into that limit with this deck! Don't play more hourglasses than you need. Two should be plenty. I was only able to get 8 unstable gasses out-- 9 after turning the last air pendulum into a nymph. I used one gas, created another (which couldn't be used right away), ended the turn, then used nine gasses for the kill. Good thing Morte wasn't smart enough to heal in that situation, and I wouldn't want to gamble on it again!
Post by: majofa on September 12, 2011, 04:55:33 pm
Post by: ~Napalm on September 14, 2011, 05:58:21 pm
(http://i52.tinypic.com/izow1z.png)
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on September 14, 2011, 08:50:09 pm
Post by: ddevans96 on September 19, 2011, 02:44:09 am
Yeah that's not Morte. Oops.lol.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/izow1z.png)
Post by: nolf on September 26, 2011, 08:49:35 am
Post by: majofa on September 26, 2011, 01:34:46 pm
Post by: nolf on September 27, 2011, 07:57:10 am
Post by: Higurashi on October 09, 2011, 09:21:26 am
I wouldn't mind going -1 QP, +1 Air pend though, even though mathematically the difference between 3 or 4 in such a big deck with tons of drawing barely makes a difference. Sometimes you simply faildraw. Hell, now that I look at it, chances are higher you won't draw a Quint until too late.
Post by: the dictator on October 17, 2011, 11:23:51 am
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5364/antimortefail.png)
Post by: Higurashi on October 17, 2011, 02:45:02 pm
Post by: ddevans96 on October 20, 2011, 07:49:03 pm
Post by: Ravensvoice on October 23, 2011, 09:41:39 am
as the post after me stated correctly there is no upped deck in the first post, my mistake i used to use an upped version of the fire bolt deck for morte. changed the wording "upgraded"to "fire bolt". the argument that you cant have more than 75 fire quants anymore is ofcourse still valid
Post by: Xenocidius on October 23, 2011, 09:56:52 am
Post by: Higurashi on October 28, 2011, 11:27:04 am
My CCYB Morte counter:Used a mod of this with more Sancs, less SoG's (3/2), another Purify and one less UG. It took a while to draw the first Unstoppable, but I was lucky that he didn't pull many Rays. I'll use a hybrid next time, keeping the Sanc/SoG change, one Purify and two UG's. I will also add another Destroyer+Unstoppable, because you don't really need to Quint them all after all the Retros are dead. I won with one unquinted Unstoppable Destroyer, and would've lost if I hadn't played it several turns before I got my second Quint.
Post by: stylish777 on November 28, 2011, 11:05:38 am
Well here's my idea: some time ago i tried using Liquid antimatter and offcourse failed because of a miracle. To negate that i used an ice bolt to finish him. With great succes. 100% winrate untill today(offcourse without counting the countless losses due to silly mistakes in the trainer)... lousy draw.. on both sides and i lacked 4 dmg.. Morte played a miracle and it was over. I used this deck:
I was very proud of the 100% winrate and when it dropped to 90% i figured it was time to addapt the deck to 1.293
SoG's are nerfed and not really needed since you use antimatter. Angels still like to heal buffed antimattered vampire dragons. The previous deck was having trouble getting entropy fast enough. Silence would be able to finish the job better and way more reliable than an ice lance ever could. And offcourse an added shield for faster protection would help a LOT.
So with no further ado i present:
Morte, hush baby. It won't hurt. Much..
So far i've had 5 wins and no losses. No EM but I wasnt focussing on getting that. It should be easy enough to get EM about 90% of the time, by just making sure the antimatered vamps arent interrupted by something that does more than 2 dmg.
Anyway the strategy may sound elaborate but if you look at the deck and at Morte's deck it makes sense:
Morte has no PC and Get a shield out. Wait for an angel or dragon. Make sure you have 6 entropy and 1 extra for every chaos power you have in your hand. Buff. Antimatter. Play suppernova's whenever you like. Morte can't alter your quanta or your hand, so no worries there.
He will play an angel eventually and angels will keep the antimattered vamps from dying. Gotta love Morte <3. You may want to protect it from freezing so its healing wont be interrupted by freezing on the shield. In that case play antimatter on the angel so it wont freeze and keep any liquids for later. Try to not overdo on dmg unless you have and are able to play a silence and here's the why: Morte has miracles and he will play this for two reasons with this deck: 1 If your antimattered brainwashed friends can kill him in one turn. 2. If Morte's HP drops below 30. So you calculate the dmg. Simple enough with only 2 or 3 creatures doing dmg to him. And whenever his hp drops below 30 or the combined dmg, you play a silence and kill him.
Important: IF you have only one silence in your hand, you may want to hold on to the last liquid shadow if you cant get your dmg over 30 with it.
It's a lot of text. I know. But like i said: if you look at the logic behind it, all you need to remember is: 30HP
Note: I don't have the silences upped myself and i dont think it makes any difference. You only need one.
Post by: Chodos on December 02, 2011, 04:17:17 am
Thanks.
Post by: majofa on December 02, 2011, 04:36:03 am
Could you please add the deck for a completely upped version of the deck? It would just make it easier to grab quickly. I love this deck. It works really upped and I just finished adding the last 3 cards to have it completed.Done.
Thanks.
Post by: Higurashi on December 10, 2011, 02:42:11 pm
Yeesh, this worked.A possible idea could be Flying Titans. They get around Bone Wall and are almost impossible to killGood idea, though titans are rares.
I don't think I would've survived without Permafrost rather than Ice Shield.
Post by: ffun on December 13, 2011, 12:33:40 pm
Post by: salox on January 01, 2012, 11:01:53 pm
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.couldn't get 6 :aether to use the dim shield, and lost :(
Post by: furballdn on January 02, 2012, 04:55:17 am
Blame RNG!Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.couldn't get 6 :aether to use the dim shield, and lost :(
Post by: Chodos on March 23, 2012, 05:31:38 am
Great deck!
Post by: Rutarete on March 24, 2012, 09:36:44 pm
Hm.. There is no upped deck in the OP indeed..I used the second deck (non spoilered), and it worked great :) Got me a Condor, Retrovirus, and Deadly Poison :D
Well here's my idea: some time ago i tried using Liquid antimatter and offcourse failed because of a miracle. To negate that i used an ice bolt to finish him. With great succes. 100% winrate untill today(offcourse without counting the countless losses due to silly mistakes in the trainer)... lousy draw.. on both sides and i lacked 4 dmg.. Morte played a miracle and it was over. I used this deck:
I was very proud of the 100% winrate and when it dropped to 90% i figured it was time to addapt the deck to 1.293
SoG's are nerfed and not really needed since you use antimatter. Angels still like to heal buffed antimattered vampire dragons. The previous deck was having trouble getting entropy fast enough. Silence would be able to finish the job better and way more reliable than an ice lance ever could. And offcourse an added shield for faster protection would help a LOT.
So with no further ado i present:
Morte, hush baby. It won't hurt. Much..
-snip-
Post by: furballdn on April 03, 2012, 07:02:34 pm
Post by: Annele on May 27, 2012, 07:21:45 am
Post by: Higurashi on May 27, 2012, 11:00:30 am
Post by: Annele on May 28, 2012, 04:12:02 am
The deck isn't that old. It was made when upped Dials cost nothing to play, and so we come to the conclusion that they're unupped for a reason. Better draws. Lots of decks may do that, Instosis included.
:-[ I always forget about the mulligan.
Post by: Boingo on June 20, 2012, 02:56:34 am
I mistakenly only added QT/QPs but forgot about the air pendula but thankfully got a blue nymph anyway. Having black nymph as pet also helpful for retrovirus control. The golden nymph and light nymph were nice also since I got more drawing power and heal as a bonus. And the buff in stats for the nymphs brought Morte's hp within striking distance fairly quickly once I had whittled through a couple of bonewalls.
Bottom line: the deck works (with a bit of luck) even if you're a dumbass and forget to add the one very important card you need to make it work.
(http://newimagehosting.com/small/13401606182675-MorteUG.png) (http://newimagehosting.com/view.php?image=13401606182675-MorteUG.png)
Post by: dragtom on July 31, 2012, 11:11:57 am
blame qi.couldn't get 6 :aether to use the dim shield, and lost :(Blame RNG!
eather qi = 8.8
http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php?deckCode=4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+5ia+5ia+5ia+5ia+5ig+5ig+5ig+5pu+5pu+5pu+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+61t+61t+61t+61t+61t+61t+621+621+8ps&showImage=1 (http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php?deckCode=4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+5ia+5ia+5ia+5ia+5ig+5ig+5ig+5pu+5pu+5pu+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rl+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+5rp+61t+61t+61t+61t+61t+61t+621+621+8ps&showImage=1)
Post by: Higurashi on July 31, 2012, 11:24:55 am
Post by: Junkers on August 04, 2012, 07:58:01 am
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
Great deck, really easy win against Morte, unless you're a braniac like me and forget that your 10th UG that you just created on the 6th to last turn can't be used that round and blow your wad too early. Here comes the miracle! If that's not bad enough, I scrambled and got enough UG's out to finish him off by the last turn, but my field was so crowded I forgot to renew my shield. Gack!!!!
Post by: Jonny on January 11, 2013, 09:01:41 pm
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
Works nicely. I won 5/10 (9 in trainer). :)
I suggest some training though. If you know what you're doing, you can even turn a bad draw around.
Post by: Cielo on January 21, 2013, 07:55:21 am
Post by: trepar11 on February 03, 2013, 08:06:09 pm
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
This unupped deck worked like a charm thanks.
Post by: Higurashi on February 07, 2013, 08:30:20 am
Now, it did work.. I did win, but it's not consistent because I can't pack SoG's due to the cost change. As such I'm thinking I'll make a Snova version later.
Eh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:
Post by: Daenyathos on February 23, 2013, 11:54:26 am
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and use Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tears on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
Cheers, the deck worked and I got a retrovirus, though I was left with some 15HP when I finally could start dumping sundials and phase shields (I had no :aether and sundials at all up until then). Also, it might be worth mentioning that one should pay attention to the number of permanents played, as one may end up without enough room to drop all the needed unstable gases.
Post by: pikachufan2164 on February 28, 2013, 09:33:03 am
Eh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:Ran this with Nymph's Tears instead of the Blue Nymphs (30+ Nymphs in my collection, and not a single one of them; lol).
It survived the early game well, but the first Tear showed up 25 cards into the deck. Feels bad, man :<
Post by: Rutarete on March 02, 2013, 08:06:43 am
Eh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:Used this, and it worked :) Nymphs didn't come until 10 cards left, and I would've gotten an EM, but I made a mistake with my UGs and he Miracled :(
Edit: I should mention that a chrysaora pet helped with a constant 6 poison damage.
Post by: Daenyathos on March 03, 2013, 09:23:26 am
Eh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:Ran this with Nymph's Tears instead of the Blue Nymphs (30+ Nymphs in my collection, and not a single one of them; lol).
It survived the early game well, but the first Tear showed up 25 cards into the deck. Feels bad, man :<
Same situation, tried the same, failed miserably.
Did the same thing, I never got the :water to play the second nypmh, and the first one made it on the field with only 8 turns to spare. Meh. :<
Post by: Rutarete on March 06, 2013, 07:00:19 am
Eh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:Used this deck for the second time. Got both nymphs early, but wasn't able to play them until way too late. I'm considering switching a few of the Aether Towers for Air Pends.
Post by: Anthraxx on March 08, 2013, 11:03:54 am
Note, make sure you don't mix upped/unupped pends/sancs/SoGs in the deck. The permanent slot number is very tight already and you might not be able to use 10 of them for UGs.
Post by: Cielo on March 08, 2013, 01:50:28 pm
+1 for the nymph deck.
Note, make sure you don't mix upped/unupped pends/sancs/SoGs in the deck. The permanent slot number is very tight already and you might not be able to use 10 of them for UGs.
But you can blast a few(like 3~4) UGs first, and Morte won't use Miracle.
Post by: Optimalist on March 24, 2013, 04:36:21 am
Post by: skyironsword on April 02, 2013, 09:16:48 pm
Post by: spiderjerusalem on April 03, 2013, 09:51:46 am
Very effective, wait the FG to waste two-three poisons before using the first purify. The more cards you upgrade, the faster you start doing damages. Electrocute his RoL to avoid using Miracle.
Post by: Higurashi on April 05, 2013, 05:27:30 pm
If you have the actual Blue nymph can you replace one of the nymph tears, or is it too expensive to play alone?It's quite a bit better with the Nymphs, in my experience. See the original, posted by me, for the quanta balance.
Post by: skyironsword on April 30, 2013, 01:43:53 am
Post by: Rutarete on June 08, 2013, 08:05:52 am
Used this deck yet again. This time everything was going well, I got all my UGs out, and was setting them off at the right time.. except I was one :fire short. /bigderpEh, QT's are better. First prototype EM's Morte (and Serket) in testing:Used this deck for the second time. Got both nymphs early, but wasn't able to play them until way too late. I'm considering switching a few of the Aether Towers for Air Pends.
Post by: trashduke on June 16, 2013, 02:11:51 am
FWIW here's the deck I used:
Post by: mabarry3 on June 17, 2013, 02:13:44 pm
Post by: ColorlessGreen on June 17, 2013, 03:44:57 pm
There's not enough Aether quanta generated in the second deck (I used a partially upped version of it, so I had some Phase Shields, Electrum Hourglasses, etc in it) to keep yourself alive... I was only able to chain Sundials for a while which let Arsenic continue to hit me and whittle my HP down, and I lost.. there needs to be a way to get more Aether quanta, and yes I know it is a 50-card deck, but I would strongly suggest Aether mark over Time. I never got under 15 Time quanta after the first several turns, so it was usually highly unnecessary. I could also just be unlucky, because looking at the battle the Quantam Pillars gave me a total of 16 Aether quanta and no less than 25 of every other element besides Time (which I can't tell due to the mark).
You got unlucky (as shown by your totals of quanta generation).
Getting 25+ aether by that point in the game (as you'd gotten from all the other elements) would have been enough to play four dims instead of the two (max) you were able to play with your 16, and the six additional late-game turns you would have received from those two extra dim shields would have almost definitely given you enough quanta to play the last two.
FWIW I've played the unupped deck many times, and I don't think there's a problem with too little aether quanta generation when combined with sundials for early stalling and judicious use of purifies in the mean time. The RNG gods were just very upset with you for that game.
As a side note, quint is much less necessary than it was when this deck was made due to aether nymphs having much higher health. I don't recommend removing quints, but it's absolutely okay to hold off on playing them and saving your aether quanta for shields until you've got enough defense to feel confortable. With three possible aether nymphs, it's not really a problem if one or two of them get the plague, since they'll still get out several gases before they succumb. Hell, if nymph #1 gets the plague and nymphs #2 and #3 are the last two cards in the deck, you can even purify the nymph. One unquinted nymph plus a purify on said nymph at 1 hp is probably enough to win without ever playing a quint (as long as morte gets a normal amount of plagues).
Post by: jsrjohnny on July 08, 2013, 01:24:08 am
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With three possible aether nymphs, it's not really a problem if one or two of them get the plague, since they'll still get out several gases before they succumb.
I think he meant Air Nymphs, in case anyone was confused.
Post by: bripod on August 19, 2013, 06:29:43 pm
Very effective, wait the FG to waste two-three poisons before using the first purify. The more cards you upgrade, the faster you start doing damages. Electrocute his RoL to avoid using Miracle.
Fully upped and -1 Tower worked like a charm.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 30, 2013, 01:16:49 pm
Post by: trashduke on September 14, 2013, 05:32:27 pm
Here's the semi-upped deck that I was using:
I've actually had a lot more luck with pdials than this deck....
Post by: ooli on August 10, 2014, 09:34:11 am
Very effective, wait the FG to waste two-three poisons before using the first purify. The more cards you upgrade, the faster you start doing damages. Electrocute his RoL to avoid using Miracle.
Fully upped and -1 Tower worked like a charm.
Even with a 30 cards version of this deck I keep on loosing by lack of Shield: You usually have to place your 1st shield at 18 turn from the end, which leave no room for a slightly bad draw.
. I'm at 7 win for 10 loss which is far worse than most other anti-Fg deck around. I guess I should try the 51 card unupped version above.
Post by: Submachine on August 10, 2014, 04:24:17 pm
Though be sure to upgrade any cards you can.
Post by: iancudorinmarian on January 27, 2015, 02:16:49 pm
Post by: Pyrodinium on April 28, 2015, 02:20:03 am
Very effective, wait the FG to waste two-three poisons before using the first purify. The more cards you upgrade, the faster you start doing damages. Electrocute his RoL to avoid using Miracle.
Fully upped and -1 Tower worked like a charm.
Thank you for this deck. I almost died because I only have two SoW's but I managed to snag an Improved Plague from Morte.
Post by: Lech on July 02, 2015, 10:48:22 am
I used this deck to counter morte. Play is quite easy. Stall with life hp gain until you are quite sure you'll be dead next turn.
Playing nymphs isn't always priority, you can wait until you have about 12 cards left - so nearly always wait for quintessence.
Collect enough fire quanta and unstable gas to otk him, in best case scenario use heal to get EM.
Work well enough with some unupped card - this deck have severely crippled air quanta, but it's fire quanta output is decent enough, as is aether quanta, so you can have some unupped:
-aether towers
-fire penuldums
-heal
-jade staff (it's healing part that is important)
-some shards of gratitude
-if you are desperate, some air towers, but i strongly disagree with it. You can get yolo build with one fire tower and 6 wind pillars, but you add another angle for losing (you can remove heal, as it's mainly for em, and add another, 7th wind pillar)
First thing i'd up would be shards of gratitude, then wind pillars (to add second buring tower, or better fire penuldum).
As i said, heal is for EM, so idk.
Here is my current build: WITH MARK OF LIFE
Post by: DoctorC on September 05, 2017, 10:58:37 am
Not all of us have 2 blue nymphs, and this thing worked good enough for me when I needed to beat Morte. Also has good EM chance.
Not sure how well it works unupped, but the order of upgrading cards would probably be:
Sundials -> SoSacs -> SoVs -> Bone Towers -> Holy Lights (you can use unupped luciferine) -> Poisons
Basic idea is to get Morte's max hp down to ~15 and then simply poison him. I'd use Arsenics, but the problem with those is Morte's bone walls. Unless, of course, you get your venomous stabber early enough, there's little to no chance of getting bast the shield.
Holy lights are both to not be screwed if you accidentally derped and got yourself down to <40 hp or something, as well as to ensure that SoVs have that little extra time to get Morte down.
Post by: TribalTrouble on September 17, 2017, 12:04:21 am
Post by: Manuel on September 17, 2017, 01:59:06 am
Post by: kaempfer13 on September 17, 2017, 02:13:31 am
Post by: Manuel on February 13, 2018, 04:10:43 pm
titans are big, they hit hard specially if overdrived, in most cases morte can't even miracle because he doesn't have the quanta: currently 3/3 in trainer, 1/1 in game; play safe, it can fail if u don't draw sosac but 2 turn sosac + heal from poison >>> 3 turns dim shield
obviously use your brain and count the damage
prooof: https://imgur.com/a/Pp8lO
Post by: hainkarga on February 17, 2019, 07:39:52 am
