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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg349972#msg349972
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2011, 01:39:48 pm »
I liked the idea of the Gas Attack deck, but it struck me as large and probably slow.  So I built this version instead and had zero trouble swiftly defeating Morte.  Sample size of 1.
 
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg351032#msg351032
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2011, 08:07:35 am »
Curses, the gas deck would have worked great except I miscounted the gasses I had and tried to explode them all when only 9 were active. (I had just created the 10th) The miracled, and with only 9 cards in deck and 0 air quanta, they didn't come fast enough and I decked. Would have been excellent though.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg351237#msg351237
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2011, 05:42:38 pm »
I don't have any Air Nymphs, so I had to get creative.  Easily EM'd Morte (once) with this deck:

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Same basic theory, but you have to create your own Air Nymphs.  There are exactly enough permanent slots to fit 3 different Tower types, 3 SoGs, and 10 Unstable Gasses.   That said, it might be wise to add an extra SoG even though you'll never cast it -- just so that you're more certain to draw one early.   I also ended up slapping down a Aether Nymph and a Fire Nymph just for fun, though basically all they did was beat their head against the Bone Walls. :)
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg351241#msg351241
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2011, 05:46:03 pm »
You can always blow up a few UGs to clear up some room. Morte won't Miracle at 100+ when you only have a few Nymphs out. Also, I'd be careful about Nymph's Tearing a Fire Pendulum. The deck is already skimped on fire quanta, so you wouldn't want to lose because you didn't have enough to blow up your UGs.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg351243#msg351243
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2011, 05:48:15 pm »
True, I got lucky and already had 12 :fire by the time the endgame hit, so I NT'd an FP just for fun. :)

Didn't think about half-UG'ing, though.  That's a good enough idea that I might add 2 more SoGs back in.
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg352153#msg352153
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 07:30:08 am »
Taking Kirchj33's advice on some tweaks, I ended up using this:

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Much better!  Worked very smoothly and ended in EM this morning :)
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg352834#msg352834
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2011, 06:53:17 pm »
Wouldn't the UG deck work against Scorpio also? I just played Morte with it, and today the Oracle says Scorpio, which also has no perm controls and lots of poison. Seems pretty similar. Any thoughts or comments for me before I play him?

(I don't know if this post should be here or in Scorpio thread since it relates to both.)

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Edit: Two problems with using UG deck against Scorpio: Deadly Poison goes around shields and Permafrost disables Nymphs.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg352839#msg352839
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2011, 07:07:51 pm »
While you're talking UGs, I've found that Unstable Pandas works pretty well against morte.

Because of how his deck works he can never get past your bone wall and the incredible amount of mass CC means things keep dying.

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Only real necessary ups are the SNovas, since shards can be replaced with Sancs now.

HG and Dials work much better upped though.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg354115#msg354115
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2011, 06:16:22 pm »
Riskiest quartet ever, but I beat him with 9 cards left:

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Three times I would have had my chain broken if not for drawing another sundial/shield the same turn. 24 turns of protection is nothing to be laughed at.

With no purify in your opening hand, you're going to need to drop the chain earlier - I started it at ~54 HP and 12 poison, and I came dangerously close to dying. Giving him a gigantic bonewall when you unleash your UG's is fun though :P
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg355273#msg355273
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2011, 09:22:45 am »
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I put any upgrades I have in the deck, and still lost. 4 Purifies isn't popping until my last turn, I managed to make 2  :air Nymphs, but I have no purify, so GGTQ. Adding 2 more Purify might be able to help
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg356836#msg356836
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2011, 07:34:13 am »
I have also not had much luck witht he firebolt deck.  I understand the desire to make a deck free of rares / upgrades but it is just very unreliable.

This morning Oracle said Morte and I used this CCYB variant:
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This deck would be good, if it is not so quanta starved. Next time i'll drop some heavy weight from it and pack more pillars.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg363365#msg363365
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2011, 07:38:31 pm »
Don't start chaining Sundials/Shields until you're at about 50hp, then watch your HP and and using Purifies accordingly. Use Nymph's Tear on you Air Pendulums and Quint it if you can. Otherwise, play it when Morte doesn't have any Retroviruses, and then blow up one Unstable Gas to kill the Retrovirus (Blue Nymph can take 1 hit from an UG). Once you have 10 UGs, blow them up for the win.
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