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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1080436#msg1080436
« Reply #108 on: June 16, 2013, 02:11:51 am »
Wow - I tried to make the unupped deck work (with a few extra upped cards + a nympho) and it was quite the nail biter.  I was down to 2 HP before I got a purify to get me back up to 12 HP.  Got poisoned so I ended up with 11 HP and 2 cards left.  Much too close for comfort, but a pretty exciting match.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1080868#msg1080868
« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2013, 02:13:44 pm »
There's not enough Aether quanta generated in the second deck (I used a partially upped version of it, so I had some Phase Shields, Electrum Hourglasses, etc in it) to keep yourself alive... I was only able to chain Sundials for a while which let Arsenic continue to hit me and whittle my HP down, and I lost.. there needs to be a way to get more Aether quanta, and yes I know it is a 50-card deck, but I would strongly suggest Aether mark over Time. I never got under 15 Time quanta after the first several turns, so it was usually highly unnecessary. I could also just be unlucky, because looking at the battle the Quantam Pillars gave me a total of 16 Aether quanta and no less than 25 of every other element besides Time (which I can't tell due to the mark).
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1080897#msg1080897
« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2013, 03:44:57 pm »
There's not enough Aether quanta generated in the second deck (I used a partially upped version of it, so I had some Phase Shields, Electrum Hourglasses, etc in it) to keep yourself alive... I was only able to chain Sundials for a while which let Arsenic continue to hit me and whittle my HP down, and I lost.. there needs to be a way to get more Aether quanta, and yes I know it is a 50-card deck, but I would strongly suggest Aether mark over Time. I never got under 15 Time quanta after the first several turns, so it was usually highly unnecessary. I could also just be unlucky, because looking at the battle the Quantam Pillars gave me a total of 16 Aether quanta and no less than 25 of every other element besides Time (which I can't tell due to the mark).

You got unlucky (as shown by your totals of quanta generation).

Getting 25+ aether by that point in the game (as you'd gotten from all the other elements) would have been enough to play four dims instead of the two (max) you were able to play with your 16, and the six additional late-game turns you would have received from those two extra dim shields would have almost definitely given you enough quanta to play the last two.

FWIW I've played the unupped deck many times, and I don't think there's a problem with too little aether quanta generation when combined with sundials for early stalling and judicious use of purifies in the mean time. The RNG gods were just very upset with you for that game.

As a side note, quint is much less necessary than it was when this deck was made due to aether nymphs having much higher health. I don't recommend removing quints, but it's absolutely okay to hold off on playing them and saving your aether quanta for shields until you've got enough defense to feel confortable. With three possible aether nymphs, it's not really a problem if one or two of them get the plague, since they'll still get out several gases before they succumb. Hell, if nymph #1 gets the plague and nymphs #2 and #3 are the last two cards in the deck, you can even purify the nymph. One unquinted nymph plus a purify on said nymph at 1 hp is probably enough to win without ever playing a quint (as long as morte gets a normal amount of plagues).

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1085440#msg1085440
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2013, 01:24:08 am »
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With three possible aether nymphs, it's not really a problem if one or two of them get the plague, since they'll still get out several gases before they succumb.

I think he meant Air Nymphs, in case anyone was confused.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1093384#msg1093384
« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2013, 06:29:43 pm »
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1095315#msg1095315
« Reply #113 on: August 30, 2013, 01:16:49 pm »
The air pend/NT stall deck works very well, but it never gets EMs.  I added a single miracle and it helps a lot for that.  With the purifies and phase shields, you can wait that extra turn after playing miracle for the purify to put you back to 100hp.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1097080#msg1097080
« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2013, 05:32:27 pm »
Looks like I got unlucky...

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I've actually had a lot more luck with pdials than this deck....
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1150307#msg1150307
« Reply #115 on: August 10, 2014, 09:34:11 am »
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Very effective, wait the FG to waste two-three poisons before using the first purify. The more cards you upgrade, the faster you start doing damages. Electrocute his RoL to avoid using Miracle.

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Even with a 30 cards version of this deck I keep on loosing by lack of Shield: You usually have to place your 1st shield at 18 turn from the end, which leave no room for a slightly bad draw.


. I'm at 7 win for 10 loss which is far worse than most other anti-Fg deck around. I guess I should try the 51 card unupped version above.
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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1150375#msg1150375
« Reply #116 on: August 10, 2014, 04:24:17 pm »
Try this deck. It's much better, even if unupgraded:

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1177292#msg1177292
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2015, 02:16:49 pm »
At the first deck, I think you missed something. It says "If you have more nymphs, add them instead of" and nothing else. I guess you meant instead of NT and PU.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1188029#msg1188029
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Thank you for this deck. I almost died because I only have two SoW's but I managed to snag an Improved Plague from Morte.

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Re: Oracle : Morte https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603.msg1195205#msg1195205
« Reply #119 on: July 02, 2015, 10:48:22 am »
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I used this deck to counter morte. Play is quite easy. Stall with life hp gain until you are quite sure you'll be dead next turn.

Playing nymphs isn't always priority, you can wait until you have about 12 cards left - so nearly always wait for quintessence.

Collect enough fire quanta and unstable gas to otk him, in best case scenario use heal to get EM.

Work well enough with some unupped card - this deck have severely crippled air quanta, but it's fire quanta output is decent enough, as is aether quanta, so you can have some unupped:
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-if you are desperate, some air towers, but i strongly disagree with it. You can get yolo build with one fire tower and 6 wind pillars, but you add another angle for losing (you can remove heal, as it's mainly for em, and add another, 7th wind pillar)

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First thing i'd up would be shards of gratitude, then wind pillars (to add second buring tower, or better fire penuldum).

As i said, heal is for EM, so idk.

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