Metamorphosis - Short break to discuss issues (Please help discuss).

[EvaRia]

After Round 1, there are several issues that have been evident within the event that I have decided to try and resolve before Round 2, in order to improve the remainder of the event.

I apologize for this short break, but I need some feedback on some of these issues before I can continue.

These are the biggest ones:

MERCY RULE

As a side effect in the way the event works, there may be cases where you make a mistake and end up with a deck you just can't win with.
Another thing that may happen is that when the other person wins, they just craft a counter and you get walled.

Current rules say there's no way to change your deck, which means you can be completely screwed over. This needs to change.

These are the suggestions that I have so far, but this is something we definitely need to finalize before continuing.

1. If you lose the first 2 duels in a row, then you can change 2 cells in your 3rd match. However, if you win that match, you don't get to swap anything after.
This gives you a chance to strike back against counters.

2. If you lose, you have the option of reverting to the deck you started with. This way, if you get screwed over by a mistake, you at least have a way out.

If anyone has other suggestions that may be better, post please.

BYES

The second issue. As with any event, there may be the event that you cannot reach your opponent, or your opponent concedes for some reason. (Illegal deck, etc.)
In this case, you would get a bye, but this could be an unfair advantage, since you can craft your deck any way you want without worrying about your opponent, AND you get a free win.

These are a couple ways I could possibly conduct byes:

1. At the end of each round, I give a small period of time for the person who got the bye to post 4 decks as if they won 3 - 0. This will happen before the matchups are posted for Round 2.

2. The receiver of the bye gets a random completed mark. Their deck does not change.

I'm not sure which one would work best, so I need feedback from the players.

MATCH-UPS

Originally I planned to do the match-ups Swiss style, but if I do that there's a slight problem in that doing so will mean that at the end of Round 4, there will automatically be at least 1 person who won 4 in a row.

I was thinking of doing it just completely randomly, and you cannot have the same opponent as you did last round.

Which one is better?


Anyways, please post your own thoughts here, and when we seem happy with what we have I will continue with Round 2.

[RootRanger]

Thanks for posting this. Here are my opinions.
Mercy: If a player loses a round 0-3, they can start the next round with a new deck (but the same mark).
Byes: The player with a bye uses the deck they ended with the round before the bye. They complete a random mark that they have not completed yet. If a player receives a bye in round 1, their round 2 opponent and te player will both be able to create new decks with new marks. This rule is designed to prevent easy counterdecking.
Matchups: Swiss. This prevents more than two people from tying for first place after 6 rounds.

[Onizuka]

I like the option of being able to revert to your original deck/make a new deck. Morphing two cells doesn't do much for some strategies, and people who lost shouldn't get a free convert.

And I agree with RootRanger about if you face a player with a bye. They both should be able to remake their decks.

[DSSCRA]

I agree with everything root ranger said. (also great ideas root +rep)

[TheCrazyMango]

Well i won and i forgot about mark changing before i changed all my pillars to pends and now im SCREWED! I would gladly revert back to my starting deck if given the chance.

[DevilLoss]

what i would do is what root first said and make a knew deck same mark for the next round it would be harder for a counter deck to occur and allow people to have a chance of winning. also instead of going back to started deck i like the idea that if u mess up your final deck at the end your allowed to change 2 card cells to ease up on mistakes and still make decks coherent. like how 9270984 messed up with pends.
 

[kirchj33]

As far as byes are concerned:  I think the option where the player posts 3 decks and completes their mark is far superior to allowing them to take a random completed mark.  Some players may be trying to avoid certain marks and this may allow them to complete marks they feel are inferior by random chance.

I am also a bit confused about rules, and I seek clarity for a situation.  I lost 2-3 in the first round.  As I understand, I am to use the same 3 decks I posted and used in the first round, again in the second round.  There is a good chance I may get matched up against someone who is not in the same situation as me.  This would allow them to deckbuild against my 3 decks with the clairvoyance of knowing what they will face ahead of time?  If this is the case, I find this to be an extremely unfair advantage.  Thanks in advance for clarifying towards my situation, and others in similar.

[TheCrazyMango]

I think that at any time you might be able to go back to your original starter deck.

[Spiraler]

I think you should keep the same rules for the deckbuilding. If you make a bad deck, that is entirely your own fault. just do what I would. Switch pillars for pendulums, and vise versa. As for byes, if you get one, you should only change 0-3 cells. I would make the matchups completely random, because it would just be single elimination tournament if you keep it Swiss style. Everyone who already lost (me included) cannot possibly win the event if you keep it Swiss style.

[agentflare]

Well... for the byes, I'm going to say that the second option is slightly more fair, since that can both screw up the player's original strategy, or help it, evening things out.
Secondly, it's likely that someone finishes before the swiss round is done, but both options are equally fair.

[EvaRia]

I think you should keep the same rules for the deckbuilding. If you make a bad deck, that is entirely your own fault. just do what I would. Switch pillars for pendulums, and vise versa. As for byes, if you get one, you should only change 0-3 cells. I would make the matchups completely random, because it would just be single elimination tournament if you keep it Swiss style. Everyone who already lost (me included) cannot possibly win the event if you keep it Swiss style.

There needs to be some kind of even minimal mercy rule AT LEAST.

For example, a deck came up like this during the round.

by EvaRia

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58s 58s 58s 58s 58s 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5uu 5uu 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 8pt

It is quite obviously impossible to win with. And without winning, there is currently no way to change it.

It's no fun playing an entire event with an impossible deck.

This event isn't here to punish players for making mistakes, it's here to have some fun in a somewhat challenging deck-building metagame.
I don't want to screw people over for the entire event just because they had a little bit of a brain slip.

[TheCrazyMango]

*facepalms repeatedly* i know that deck