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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg521850#msg521850
« Reply #96 on: July 14, 2012, 10:18:27 am »
Today oracle gave me Lionheart and i looked into this topic and thought why not psiontall ? It was pretty easy win. The deck was 6 psions, 6 DS, 3 Fractal and rest quanta source. After winning, i removed a psion and added another pendulum into the deck and went onto the trainer to test for a few matches. The results were pretty good.

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So what you should do ? The plan is taking the damage and having 2-3 DS in your hand before zerging with psions. 2-3 DS with a fractal or two should give you enough turns to win vs its drawlock. And the good thing is, it doesn't RT all your creatures all the time. Deck can have +1 fractal -1 ds as well. In my match i didn't bother with waiting 2 ds and 1 was enough.

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg523598#msg523598
« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2012, 01:41:49 pm »
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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1004397#msg1004397
« Reply #98 on: October 02, 2012, 02:31:18 am »
Just thought I'd add this. I was actually going for a Dune Scorpion deck (which is actually pretty hilarious when he starts taking 40+ damage per turn) and noticed that about half the time it killed him and half the time he'd deck out, so I just removed the scorpions and went for a full stall deck which includes healing.

This unupped deck pretty much decks him out with EM every time I play him:

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1010958#msg1010958
« Reply #99 on: October 27, 2012, 10:13:59 am »
Beat this guy with unupped mono aether this morning. The deck worked flawlessly. Won 3 elite anubis from spins too. omfg  ;D

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1011985#msg1011985
« Reply #100 on: October 31, 2012, 02:18:07 am »
I remembered that mono-aether worked pretty well against Lionheart, so I thought I'd try out my AI4 farmer on him. It worked.

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Edit: Worked perfectly yet again.

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Edit: Well, had a close game, but lost with this for the first time. Record is 3/4.

Edit: Record is now 6/8
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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1017425#msg1017425
« Reply #101 on: November 24, 2012, 09:50:44 am »
Steal 2x Light Towers, then an Eternity and 3x Time Towers.
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Played this deck a few times, EM each and every time. Today however something weird happened Lionheart got his Aether pendulums out really really late, so by the time his creature board was almost clogged (and he had something like 5 or 7 cards left) very few were quinted. This resulted in about a dozen turns where his two pharaohs would generate scarabs only to have them sent back to his hand. My only source of damage was the Eternity I'd stolen, as the pet cockatrice had finally been sent to my hand a few turns earlier. I prepared mentally to grind at his remaining 132 HP, taking 4 each turn, for 34 turns, when he finally decided to quint the last scarab and he decked out, to my relief. I really would have hated to have to click click click the same card and ability for sooo many turns... :/

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1017433#msg1017433
« Reply #102 on: November 24, 2012, 12:59:17 pm »
Played this deck a few times, EM each and every time. Today however something weird happened Lionheart got his Aether pendulums out really really late, so by the time his creature board was almost clogged (and he had something like 5 or 7 cards left) very few were quinted. This resulted in about a dozen turns where his two pharaohs would generate scarabs only to have them sent back to his hand. My only source of damage was the Eternity I'd stolen, as the pet cockatrice had finally been sent to my hand a few turns earlier. I prepared mentally to grind at his remaining 132 HP, taking 4 each turn, for 34 turns, when he finally decided to quint the last scarab and he decked out, to my relief. I really would have hated to have to click click click the same card and ability for sooo many turns... :/
I had a very similar situation with that deck once when Lionheart only got an Anubis very late on. However, the AI wasn't quite as stupid that time and managed not to quint the last 2 scarabs. I think the match got to about 55 turns before my eternity killed him (with EM). I kept having to walk away and come back because Lionheart was spending so long on each turn.

Other than the occasional odd game though this is a very good unnupped counter. The only time I remember losing with it is when Lionheart managed to keep his Scarabs and Crusaders under 6HP for the whole game so they went right under my shield.

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1019214#msg1019214
« Reply #103 on: December 03, 2012, 08:29:56 am »
Not sure if someone's already suggested SoW version of the mono  :aether in the OP but here's the deck I usually use:

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1026887#msg1026887
« Reply #104 on: December 30, 2012, 06:52:13 pm »
I was using the 500 HP EM deck, when I realized I was being forced to kill Lionheart by Eternity damage. Maybe I got lucky, but when I used the spare Rewind on Lionheart's only unquinted Scarab, it decided to play it next turn and immediately quint it, ending the near-infinite cycle of 4 damage per turn.

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1026958#msg1026958
« Reply #105 on: December 31, 2012, 12:36:32 am »
I was using the 500 HP EM deck, when I realized I was being forced to kill Lionheart by Eternity damage. Maybe I got lucky, but when I used the spare Rewind on Lionheart's only unquinted Scarab, it decided to play it next turn and immediately quint it, ending the near-infinite cycle of 4 damage per turn.
I've had this happen a couple of times too. What I think happens is that Lionheart will only quint Scarabs when he has 5 or more cards left in his deck, otherwise he'll use Rewind until he's back at a 5 card deck and then leave one Scarab out, unquinted, to Rewind next turn. So if you Rewind a Scarab for him when he's at 5 cards left and has a full hand, on his next turn he will only draw the Scarab, leaving him at 5 cards still, at which point he'll happily play and quint the Scarab, giving you the win a few turns later.

This can save a lot of time if you get into this position with a deckout deck against Lionheart. Only 4 damage a turn from Eternity is slow.

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1037793#msg1037793
« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2013, 08:45:38 am »
Here is an up to date version for Anthraxx' mono aether, for those who can afford it:

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Re: Oracle : Lionheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21950.msg1037871#msg1037871
« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2013, 05:25:21 pm »
Got it in the Oracle and tried something "new". As always, it totally decks out. Just play your shields and dials as late as you can. Quints are for the last creatures, because sometimes and only sometimes he starts RTing 1 or 2 creatures before decking out, when he has 5 or less cards left (when he plays RT stuff before Anubis)

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