Oracle : Lionheart

[Leodip]

If only there was a card which made your opponent draw one card (aside SoBra, no rares, pls).

[the dictator]

He can rewind his own creatures leading to a deckout on your end.

Lionheart only rewinds scarabs to stay alive, which means you don't even need EVERYTHING quinted, just all scarabs. Funny enough, the quint priority for lionheart seems to be: Scarab - Other - Pharaoh (not sure on anubis/crusader/eternity, it might depend on their attack value, which means it would be endowed crusader - anubis - eternity - unendowed crusader)

So, like I said, you only lose if he doesn't quint every scarab on the field. And to give you an idea, I played approximately 15 matches in trainer, only lost 1 because lionheart pulled a succesfull self rewind (lost a second when I failed to draw gravity shield in the first 15 cards of the deck). He tried it 3 more times, but on 2 of them he was only rewinding 1 card (aka, it just took him longer to lose, considering his double draw). On the other two, he managed to rewind a few creatures, but then went crazy on the anubi, as usual, and died. On the other 10 wins he had his full field quinted before he even got to 5 cards left in deck. The one game where I lost because I got decked out was when he didn't draw any anubi until he had 9 scarab on the field, which means the anubi got eaten as soon as they arrived.

[Submachine]

I saw Lionheart rewinding crusaders and pharaohs when everything else was quinted. The real-game version is smart enough to rewind anything it can when it's under 5 cards.

[the dictator]

Interesting, though it shouldn't make much of a difference, because usually everything but scarabs is quinted, or if it isn't already, it will be soon. (Because scarabs are continuously generated)

[Submachine]

Interesting, though it shouldn't make much of a difference, because usually everything but scarabs is quinted, or if it isn't already, it will be soon. (Because scarabs are continuously generated)

I also experienced what you said, when he didn't quint its last 2 creatures for 6 turns, but after that it suddenly managed to quint the last 2. So Lionheart's AI is faulty a bit, but most of the time it works as it should.

[the dictator]

Nah, it isn't really faulty, it has more to do with the odds and order of the abilities of the creatures on the field.

You want at least 1 anubis before 2 rewinds (endowed crusaders), or 1 anubis after a Pharaoh. That way, an additional creature slot is going to be locked every turn. Because either: A) the anubis gets to quint one of the two bouncing creatures before it gets rewinded, or B) because the anubis gets to quint a scarab every turn. And, if an additional creature slot is going to be locked every turn, that means eventually, all slots will be locked, thus preventing lionheart from bouncing.

[farscape]

I made a variant of the unupped rareless counter with the steals, I figured since I do have some eternity, why rely on stealing them, when I can simply put them into the deck. Today I played with this variant and it gave me an easy EM:
(make sure to keep the black-hole for the finishing turn to heal back the eternity-damage if you are killing the FG with poison instead of deckout):

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[Lech]

@farscape: I think your variant is solid, except: don't use photon as it screw your mulligan, use 3 cost angel instead, as you don't have light quanta shortage anyway.

You don't need so many time factories, you can get away with far less: in fully upped variant, you can possibly get away with just 3 upped time factories.

The only 1/30 games eternity will be your last card, so you can play with just one (for example if someone is new player and don't have many of them).

Shards of Divinity are decent choice alongside sanctuaries, you can possibly even play with mark of light and gravity pillars instead of mark of gravity and light pillars for bigger EM.

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Something like this deck, with 4x+24 hp you can possibly get 196 hp EM, quite often. You can replace guardian angel with some low cost gravity minion like graviton salvager or whatever, it doesn't change anything. You may want to get two black holes, for more sure EM.

Here is mostly unupped version that works great, too:

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Shards aside, this deck perform well enough to warrant first post inclusion. If someone don't have shards, additional gravity shield, two additional gravity pendulums, time tower instead of time pendulum and perhaps second black hole would be perfect choices to substitute in.

[yee]

I tryed this deck and it worked quite well.

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I didn't get EM, becuse early Dune Scorpion, but it was faster than usuall Lionheart stall.

[Barragor]

The first deck is nice, but I figured the darkness quanta is not needed (You need the darkness for steal, you need steal for light towers, time towers and eternity... So why not just get light pendulums and time towers?)

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I posted a version with a 5th gravity pendulum, since the gravity shield is a must. But 4 pendulums is pretty solid, so you could add a Rewind or a 6th light pendulum instead.
You could also consider throwing in a Miracle, but you might have to save some quanta for it instead of spending it all on sanctuaries.
The chance of drawing eternity last is 1/30 and most of the times lionheart decks himself out before you get below 5 cards anyway. So IMO the rewind is not needed.

Don't let them eat your Gemfinder

[tereret]

Best FG ever, really fun to counter

[andretimpa]

I often find that adding some HG to the OP deck helps you to get to all stone skins before Lionheart decks out (don't know if it's "lack of luck" but he's really trigger happy with his HG). I think a 6th steal would also work, stealing one of his.

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