Round 8 - Decks

[xdude]

Why exactly is the Air deck on imp? -.- He's vsing Fire... and Fire can't stop out bows and stuff.. remember that part sux?

Also, shouldn't we have 115 cards in our Vault?

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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5lh 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 7k2 7k2 7n5 7n5 7n5 7n5We can salvage something like this for me.

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lf 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5ur 77g 77g 77gI suspect they might try to Dim shield chain, and that's why the explosions.

 For Rasta... no idea. We need a way to counter Discord/Black Hole, 'cause that's what they'll likely use. Let me put it bluntly. We've likely got no way to do that so I think we'll have to suicide, rather than lose our Grabbow. Also, please don't lose my Dragons, and don't give them too much Entropy.

[suxerz]

The decks in 1st post is not final. I was just throwing out some ideas. 
The vault is only half-updated - discard only.

Sorry xdude, I totally didn't get what you said about using bows for fire - and your above post making it more confusing. >.<

xdude's deck - I thought we're going to use wings..?
imp's deck - xdude mentioned bows, but since they can just blow our bows, I'm thinking of flying bows. But xdude's post doesn't have bows.. I'm confused. 

[Rastafla]

I was reading this post by implosion in the Strategy thread and decided to merge my replies.

This is the key round for every remaining team. This is where, most likely, many will be eliminated. THIS IS WHERE WE MAKE OUR STAND. THIS. IS. WHERE. WE. FIGHT. THIS. IS. WHERE. WE. WIN!!!!!

That is correct, this round will determine how entropy possibly will cull the remaining opposition. There is a possibility that entropy will tank utterly and then we will probably win the whole thing by the sheer force of our vault/cards.
3-0 is possible!

We will do 3-0 or 2-1 (where I'm the loss). I can see it just as last round when I said day after day that we would do 3-2 even though I hoped it would be 4-1 (noone can win 4/4 games vs fire and as such i did not even consider a 5-0, 2/4 was guaranteed and 3/4 possible with luck.)

So on picking decks focus on implosion and xdude and if you have to, pick a really bad suicide deck for me. It is possible that entropy can deploy 2 discord/bh decks? And are we really a priority for them? Their discord/bh deck might be needed elsewhere.

We could try to fight entropy with discords.

I'm cognitive person. I prefer to see the cards. I shall post the salvaging thread now.

[Salamence_747]

Salamence, that deck is a little lacking in the 50%light department.

Yeah, that and the pend department if we want to keep our quanta. Sorry about that, my mom really wanted me to get off then. So I didn't have much time to think. Now that I think about it more, we probably couldn't pull off what I was thinking unless we were team earth. So probably just ignore me.

[suxerz]

Thanks Rasta for creating the thread - I was going to do it myself earlier, but my ISP decided to give me a hard time last night.

OK, 1st & 2nd post have been updated. I still couldn't figure out what xdude meant by using bows for fire.
Therefore, I go with 2 nova + graboids and flying bows + wings for xdude. The problem that I see now is as always - we do not have enough light pillars/pends. We need 7 pends and 6 pillars. Of course we can take out one pillar/pend from xdude deck and convert the rest but I'm not sure we can afford to convert 12 cards without losing the RoL/hope deck. Or.. maybe we can, I'm just too tired and lazy to figure that out.

Also, please look at the comments that I put for each deck in my 2nd post. Let's discuss this.

[Rastafla]

implosions deck is week right now, only 3 creatures and 3 mornings (two flying weapon)

[suxerz]

Yeah, imp's deck is kinda lacking in the damage department. I was thinking of more CCs, which apparently doesn't help much. So, I've updated imp's deck with more graboids and less CC. xdude's deck and 2nd post also updated.

For Rasta's deck, I've been looking through our cards and IF we are considering a suicide, it will be something like below - maybe less entropy but we need to save the RoL/Hope so idk..

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4vh 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61uWith those cards, I say we should go on with it and not suicide since I don't see how we can build a bad suicide deck. Thoughts?

Changed all three decks and few salvages. All posts are also updated.

xdude - added air pends to reduce light cardsimp - since FW replaced by air pends in salvage, hoping for more damage with lycans and pegasusrasta - err.. less entropy cards.

[asymmetry]

isn't there something more reliable we could use/salvage for CC than a chaos seed?
ex, a lightning

Thanks for the decks everyone, they're looking good.
I agree with rasta too, imp's deck seems slow at a first glance

[suxerz]

Check the 1st post again, the CCs are gone.. Is that a good idea?

[asymmetry]

God knows T_T you all saw what CC did to my R7 deck, it's all up to good draws and good deck balancing now.

[implosion]

These decks look fine. And yeah, good draws would be nice o great RNG in the sky.

[Rastafla]

[23:36]<suxerz>I still have doubts with imp's deck
[23:36]<suxerz>fractix can screw that deck

No, since the Acsabi44 cant use upped phoenixes (I noticed those msgs quite a bit later so its possible you already figured this out)