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Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg223991#msg223991
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:56:46 pm »
Duel phase has started


Decks - Round 8


xdude (Master)
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oo 5oo 7k1 7k2 7k2 7k2 7n5 7n5
implosion (Lieutenant)
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 5f6 5f6 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lb 5ld 5lf 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5ur 77g 77g 77g
Rastafla
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lf 5lh 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 61q

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg223997#msg223997
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 10:00:22 pm »
-- General Info --

:light xdude vs :entropy 10 men (Strategist)
Flying bows with wings. Apart from only 2 wings, I'm afraid that we'll be countered with AM + Bonewall
Suggestions/comments?

:light implosion vs :fire Acsabi44 (Deckbuilder)
Nova + Graboids with packed with PCs. Aiming for a lot of damage fast.
Suggestions/comments?

:light Rastafla vs :entropy Kurohami (Vault Organizer)
Standard Nova + Graboids. Err.. and less entropy cards.
Suggestions/comments?


## Numbers ##

Counting the above decks and the discard/salvage as posted here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17645.msg240217#msg240217) (no conversion yet), we have these cards left in our vault:
-5   Light Pendulum
-7   Light Pillar
5   Aether Pillar
5   Photon
4   Lighting
4   Fractal
3   Rage Potion
3   Hope
2   Dimensional Shield
2   Aether Pendulum
2   Golden Dragon
2   Owl's Eye
2   Air Pendulum
1   Deflagration
1   Chaos Seed
1   Lobotomizer


$$ Decks up for Grabs $$

Alternative decks.
    Flying stars
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    Flying bows
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    5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lf 5lf 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5og 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 7k2 7n5 7n5[/list]

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224019#msg224019
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 10:21:37 pm »
    Matchups have been announced. I face :fire, xdude and Rasta both face :entropy. No generals.

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224026#msg224026
    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 10:26:15 pm »
    Yep, post updated and xdude mentioned that he will be gone in the deckbuilding phase. Posting the conversation for reference.

    [05:01:13] xdude [»] suxerz: hey
    [05:01:26] xdude [»] suxerz: I'll be gone for the next Deckbuilding phase
    [05:01:33] xdude [»] suxerz: will be back for Dueling though
    [05:01:36] suxerz [»] xdude: aww...
    [05:01:46] xdude [»] suxerz: don't worry
    [05:01:55] xdude [»] suxerz: I have some things in mind.
    [05:02:13] xdude [»] suxerz: Do you mind if I tell you in chat, I don't feel like making a big nice post in our section now.
    [05:02:15] suxerz [»] xdude: ok.. im here
    [05:02:26] suxerz [»] xdude: sure.
    [05:02:39] xdude [»] suxerz: generally against Entropy
    [05:02:55] xdude [»] suxerz: if I'm gonna be the one playing Entropy
    [05:03:04] xdude [»] suxerz: I want the Wings deck.
    [05:03:26] suxerz [»] xdude: wings with flying MS?
    [05:03:29] xdude [»] suxerz: they might be using Pandemonium/Poison to stop RoL/Hope
    [05:03:37] xdude [»] suxerz: MS's would work good
    [05:03:55] xdude [»] suxerz: especially since they might not use BW's
    [05:04:05] xdude [»] suxerz: upps: EE's and Miracles
    [05:04:36] suxerz [»] xdude: ok
    [05:04:44] xdude [»] suxerz: if somebody else plays them..
    [05:05:00] xdude [»] suxerz: they're likely gonna use BH's against our Rainbows.
    [05:05:06] xdude [»] suxerz: Wings to stop BH's would be good.
    [05:05:34] suxerz [»] xdude: eh? wings stop BH?
    [05:05:37] xdude [»] suxerz: perhaps IMP might use RoL/Hope to block their Discords, but... that would be risky and I'd REALLY rather not lose RoL/Hope
    [05:05:51] xdude [»] suxerz: that deck can win us the War with Pande taken out
    [05:05:56] xdude [»] suxerz: err, wings stop Discords.
    [05:06:22] suxerz [»] xdude: ah.. yes, winds stop discord
    [05:06:40] xdude [»] suxerz: we only have 2 though, right?
    [05:06:51] suxerz [»] xdude: yeah.. only 2
    [05:07:05] suxerz [»] xdude: and we can have another 2 tit shield i think
    [05:07:25] xdude [»] suxerz: tit shield? are those helpful? o.O
    [05:07:49] suxerz [»] xdude: nope.. >.< just saying for the sake of shield
    [05:08:03] xdude [»] suxerz: anyways, I'd rather we don't use that Wings deck against anybody else, it'd be nice to surprise Entropy
    [05:08:37] suxerz [»] xdude: yep
    [05:09:18] xdude [»] suxerz: hmm..
    [05:09:25] xdude [»] suxerz: against Fire they DEFINITELY have no Discords
    [05:09:29] xdude [»] suxerz: no BH's*
    [05:09:34] xdude [»] suxerz: as they gave up the Discords
    [05:09:48] xdude [»] suxerz: so they can't counter our bows, especially if we pack some explosions
    [05:10:48] suxerz [»] xdude: ok, bows for fire
    [05:11:38] xdude [»] suxerz: most of the other elements should be easy to counter knowing they can only play 1 or 2 decks.
    [05:12:18] suxerz [»] xdude: what if we have fire AND entropy match?
    [05:12:38] xdude [»] suxerz: well, bows for Fire
    [05:12:46] xdude [»] suxerz: Entropy... like before
    [05:13:09] xdude [»] suxerz: anyways I think I'll be able to post after seeing the matchups, this is just in case I can;t.
    [05:13:12] xdude [»] suxerz: can't*
    [05:13:29] suxerz [»] xdude: ok
    [05:13:50] suxerz [»] xdude: hope that ddevan can post them soon
    [05:14:24] xdude [»] suxerz: he's at school -.-
    [05:15:07] suxerz [»] xdude: :P

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224120#msg224120
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 11:58:56 pm »
    ahahhah our worst case scenario in that chat - play fire entropy
    nicely callde sux. Nicely guessed, but i wish to hell you got it wrong :P
    Let's go Team Light :light!

    suxerz

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224185#msg224185
    « Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 12:45:45 am »
    Just throwing some ideas on the 1st post. Not sure about Rasta's deck. Nova+Graboid seems viable but we'll be countered by discord+BH. Was thinking about PUs in Rasta's salvage but how to work around that... Any ideas?
    Card counts will be put later once the salvage/discard thread is available.

    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224229#msg224229
    « Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 01:28:52 am »
    If imp doesn't get animates I see no reason to use 4 EE. Wow, I'm blind today.

    If we don't fear AM, rasta could play LightDragonPowa. However, I think entropy might see that coming, and they could easily add AM to BH/Discord Just to counter both the novabow and the DragonPowa at the same time. As long as this is still V1.252 (which it is) dive fixes AM. So, if we have the cards for it, we could play a pillar-heavy blessing/pegasus deck with Air mark. (Just checked that out, we have 3 pegasi, and they're in imp's deck. So that's probably a no go.)


    ...Thinking out loud, I am. I'm just leaving a record of what I was thinking. :P

    Alright, new theory. We could play Grabbybow against entropy, but we'd have to play smart if they go BH. What say we make it largely Light/Earth and we only play nova when we'll use the quanta to evolve graboid or play stiletto or something. Wait. We lost our stiletto, didn't we. *checks* Nope, it lives. Awesome.

    I threw together a deck idea for rasta:

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    4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 5lc 5lc 5ld 5lh 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5rk 5ur 61q
    It should beat BH/Discord if played well. If it meets BH/Discord, the discord will lower your need of nova. Play as little quanta as you can, in fact if we had EQ I'd put it in to use on yourself once set up to lower BH's healing. Everything but the MS costs 3 or less, discord shouldn't be a huge issue. Deflags for shields, burst damage with the graboid by evolving last second if they have AM or G-Pull or something.

    Anyway, I think it is possible to top BH/Discord with a novabow if well played.


    One more thing, I only see how we can get 2 fog shield. Why does imp have 3? Where did I miss a shield?

    implosion

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224231#msg224231
    « Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 01:34:08 am »
    Salamence, that deck is a little lacking in the 50%light department.

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224233#msg224233
    « Reply #8 on: December 14, 2010, 01:36:53 am »
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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224295#msg224295
    « Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 02:43:03 am »
    Oh also make sure to fix the marks in the OP kthxbai.

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224305#msg224305
    « Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 03:04:46 am »
    I just updated the Vault with our Discards for easier deckbuilding. Some of the above decks aren't legal using our current vault and potential salvages.

    Also, still four whole days for so few decks?
    The dogs of war are nothing compared to the cats.

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    Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17570.msg224313#msg224313
    « Reply #11 on: December 14, 2010, 03:16:33 am »
    I just updated the Vault with our Discards for easier deckbuilding. Some of the above decks aren't legal using our current vault and potential salvages.

    Also, still four whole days for so few decks?
    :entropy has 9 to make.

     

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