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Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg337550#msg337550
« on: May 20, 2011, 06:35:50 pm »
Shapeshifting: Before each duel: Remove up to 6 cards from your deck.

*The Full complete deck must be posted in the deck topic and in the Match results.
*If your deck was 36 cards, you could play 3 different variations for the match if you wanted.
*If you play a 30 card deck you can't possibly remove any cards.
*Your Mark may not change
*A deck need only be legal in its full state.

Decks: I wish you the best of luck, General coinich.
Duels: Duels have ended. I hope we won.

:underworld Neopergoss vs Gen. coinich


Victorious underworld decks from Round 6:
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vp 4vp 4vp 58v 77g 77g 5ie 5f6 5f6 7k6 5oj 5oj 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rr 5rr 5rr 621 621 71b 71b 7k2 8ps

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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg337912#msg337912
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 09:13:40 am »
Because typewithme is down for me, i made several test with my own crusader decks.
But first, when  :underworld uses the first deck what Root posted, i think we don't has too many chance. I only won 1 match from ~15.

Other test results:
With this (i know, we don't has some cards from this in our vault, i just want to probe out  :air with crusaders. i don't think that would be effective...):
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5ld 5ld 5lf 5lf 5li 5li 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 8pr

Against the 2. deck:
2-3
Against the 3. deck:
3-2
With this:
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5li 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5up 5up 7k2 7n2 7n2 7tb 7tb 7tb 8pt

Against the 2. deck:
4-1
Against the 3. deck:
4-1

The Event Card is not so good for us this time :(
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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg338006#msg338006
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 03:18:10 pm »
Can we get enough Crusaders to run a Vader Sader?

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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg338031#msg338031
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 04:25:33 pm »
Not really. At best, we can have 3 crusaders and 3 daggers or 4 crusaders and 2 daggers.
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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg338591#msg338591
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 04:07:56 pm »
Wow.  Another poor event card for us and unfavorable match-up considering our current vault situation. Its not that the event card is bad for us per say, its just fairly worthless considering our vault situation.  The event card; however, is amazing for a team like UW.

At any rate, its looks to me like (given our current vault situation) we have options that are limited to a mediocre air duo, a great discord duo that will be ineffective, a half-assed poison deck, a half-assed vader sader, or a mono light.

It seems to me that it would still be favorable to run the discord deck vs. UW.

Now before you snicker, listen to my reasons:

1.  AM is still a very strong card if not expected.  People still like to use dragons against us and I don't see the genius strategists over at UW analyzing our vault and determining this is a poor strategy.

2.  The deck still has a fairly good rush without discord operating in its capacity.  We would still need to bring discord for the damage it offers and to get some damage from our saders.  We could consider dropping the saders and discords for 3 pillars + dragon + miracle.  I think we would have enough to make those changes?  The hope would be then, that we have enough healing to beat UW in this way.

3.  The deck gives us the best chance to win, moving forward.  Its the only solid deck we have left in our vault imho.  If we are planning to go on a 3 or 4 game winning streak, bringing another deck is not the choice.  It would be better to bring this one and adapt to the opponent.

*Note - we could even make use of the event card by bringing both saders & discords + having the option to change to the adjusted build mentioned above.  I could test these later this evening after going to church/library/gym today.   

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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg338601#msg338601
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 04:31:37 pm »
1.) Antimatter is ineffective against most of UW's decks. They have quints, RTs, low-attack creatures, and ways of killing their own antimattered creatures.

2.) Crusader + EE does more damage than Crusader + Discord. we also have light dragons for damage.

3.) We have a 50% chance to get a bye the next round. Also, Light/Air isn't a bad duo. Most teams don't have anything that can survive 7 damage from an EE and shockwave.
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Re: Round 7: Opponent, Duel, and Deck Scouting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26552.msg338863#msg338863
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 01:22:34 am »
I've been trying different types of decks with what we have available.  The problem is:
    We have to beat underworld or else we are done.Everything effective against other teams isn't against UW, or that is, less so.
I haven't been able to find anything better than the light-air we have now... I'll keep testing, but that is what it looks like is our best hope.

 

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