Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[fenix2011]

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Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
6   x   Nova
3   x   Fractal
3   x   Vampire Stiletto
3   x   Momentum
3   x   Miracle
3   x   Reverse Time
2   x   Aether Pillar
2   x   Steal
2   x   Heal
2   x   Sundial
1   x   Lighting

Discarding
34   x   Light Pendulum
13   x   Light Pillar
12   x   Miracle
6   x   Ice Bolt
5   x   Luciferin
4   x   Lighting
4   x   Discord
4   x   Ice Shield
4   x   Water Pendulum
3   x   Fractal
2   x   Dissipation Shield
2   x   Water Pillar
1   x   Aether Pillar
1   x   Golden Dragon
1   x   Reflective Shield

Penalties
- none -

Converting
2   Sundial
4   Reverse Time
2   Immolation
2   Nova
1   Arsenic
1   Discord
- to -
8   x   Light Pendulum
4   x   Light Pillar

[fenix2011]

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[fenix2011]

So far.. its not looking amazing =/
5 wins - 4 losses
4 * -24 = -96 (discard loss)
5 * 6 = 30 (Salvage gain)
/\ = -66 (current card loss)

Current Vault = 349
349 - 66 = 283
9*30 = 270 (cards needed for 9 decks)

So we're cutting it damn close with cards.. and this is not going to be fun to prepare =S
Good luck Ryan!! wooo Ryan!! Undefeated rookie beats undefeated master!!

My suggestion is we do the massive discards - as best we can. Use the "spreadsheet-of-awesomeness" to spit out a list of the cards we have left then salvage based on deck making..

Discards [ 24 Cards ]
(:Air) Pervepic  2 - 1 Salamence747 (:Light)

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4vg 4vg 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5la 5la 5la 5la 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq(:Earth) Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry (:Light)

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Salvages [ 6 Cards ]
(:Light) Ryan666 2 - 0 Kael Hate (:Darkness)

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5li 5li 5up 5up 5up 5up 5us 5us 5us 5us 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7k0 7k2 7k2 7q9 7q9 7tb(:Light) Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 (:Death)

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[u](:Air) Pervepic  2 - 1 Salamence747 (:Light)[/u]
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[u](:Earth) Terroking 2 - 0 xdude (:Light)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Aether) Toimu13 2 - 1 suxerz (:Light)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Earth) Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry (:Light)[/u]
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[u](:Air) Pervepic  2 - 1 Salamence747 (:Light)[/u]
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[u](:Earth) Terroking 2 - 0 xdude (:Light)[/u]
# x CARD
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[u](:Aether) Toimu13 2 - 1 suxerz (:Light)[/u]
# x CARD
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[u](:Earth) Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry (:Light)[/u]
# x CARD
# x CARD
# x CARD
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[size=14pt][u][b]Salvages[/b][/u][/size]
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[u](:Light) Ryan666 2 - 0 Kael Hate (:Darkness)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Light) Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 (:Death)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Light) implosion 2 - 0 Gl1tch (:Life)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Light) Wizardcat 2 - 0 Nadrin (:Life)[/u]
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[u](:Light) Rastafla 2 - 1 Cebra (:Gravity)[/u]
[deck mark=MARK author=fenix2011]
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[u](:Light) Ryan666 2 - 0 Kael Hate (:Darkness)[/u]
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[u](:Light) Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 (:Death)[/u]
# x CARD
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[u](:Light) implosion 2 - 0 Gl1tch (:Life)[/u]
# x CARD
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[u](:Light) Wizardcat 2 - 0 Nadrin (:Life)[/u]
# x CARD
# x CARD
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[u](:Light) Rastafla 2 - 1 Cebra (:Gravity)[/u]
# x CARD
# x CARD
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[fenix2011]

We will need to look really close at our vault, since no matter what we are down to using almost all our cards..
Obviously we need to wait to see our match-ups, but since our deck building is fairly limited anyway I wanted to encourage thought about the decks we could try to put together..

Discards
(:Air) Pervepic  2 - 1 Salamence747 (:Light)
With 6 from here... and 6 from below we can save a water deck?? Otherwise we ditch water and harvest the light
(:Earth) Terroking 2 - 0 xdude (:Light)
see above
(:Aether) Toimu13 2 - 1 suxerz (:Light)
I like the discords.. that deck might run better with pillars for us and ditching diss?
Looking at our salvages I vote we salvage the entropy imp and make a working light/entropy
(:Earth) Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry (:Light)
Tough.. we can salvage back some aether (from my match).. or not (see below)

Salvages
(:Light) Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 (:Death)
Salvage death (2 Arsenic + 1 in vault) to complement bonewall/poison in vault already...
Salvage aether to replace discards..
I prefer the working death deck idea..
(:Light) implosion 2 - 0 Gl1tch (:Life)
Salvage entropy to make a working entropy/light
More discord/nova..
(:Light) Wizardcat 2 - 0 Nadrin (:Life)
Don't know.. maybe adrenaline?
Would anyone expect adren pegs + few heals??
(:Light) Rastafla 2 - 1 Cebra (:Gravity)
Best idea I can think of is RTs just to pack CC..
Or use the Deja's with (more) RTs and bless..
Or momentums (for vs aether)


My cards for illegal deck are:
2  Deflagration
5   Fire Shield
5   Deja Vu
4   Bone Wall
2  Sundial
3   Rain of Fire
1   Momentum
3   Heal
2   Reflective Shield
2   Steal
1   Discord
1   Freeze

and vault is
4 Deflagration
2 momentum
2   Golden Dragon
1   Fog Shield

[Wizardcat]

If we don't take the Stilettos from my Salvage, I will be cross.

[suxerz]

Yep, stilts are good for rainbows but I think adrenaline is also good vs bonewall.

[Wizardcat]

Let's grab the novas from implosion's match for a second light-bow deck. The Stilettos from my match, maybe some Momentum and/or Reverse Time from Rasta's, Lightning from Fenix's would work in those.

[implosion]

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Kael's deck, also 6 salvages (4 miracles + 2?)

[asymmetry]

Congrats to the team winners, really.

Seems we're not bad, despite the average round (well, not average for some of you :B WOO RYAN) So far all of us are playing at R5... Should we discard 12 pillars in some decks and use the conversion trick? Because some decks are really great, they just had terrible matchups.

I clearly live in a lightbulb

[Salamence_747]

My suggestions:

Discards
() Pervepic  2 - 1 Salamence747 ()

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4vg 4vg 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5la 5la 5la 5la 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq() Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry ()

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Keep:
1 Ice Shield
5 Ice Bolt
3 Miracle

Discard the rest.

() Terroking 2 - 0 xdude ()
Keep:
3 Ice Bolt
1 Ice Shield
2 Water Pillar
2 Water Pend
5 Light Pend

Discard the rest

() Toimu13 2 - 1 suxerz ()
Keep:
3 Discord
2 Light Pend
1 Miracle

Discard the rest.

() Legit 2 - 0 asymmetry ()
Keep:
4 Fractal
3 Hope
3 Photon

Discard the rest.

Salvages
() Ryan666 2 - 0 Kael Hate ()

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5li 5li 5up 5up 5up 5up 5us 5us 5us 5us 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7k0 7k2 7k2 7q9 7q9 7tb() Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 ()

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52p 52p 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61o 61o 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622() implosion 2 - 0 Gl1tch ()

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55n 55n 55p 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 576 576 576 576 576 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt() Ryan666 2 - 0 Kael Hate ()
I like his deck concept, but it seems poorly executed. Anyone want  to combine this salvage and wiz's salvage to make a better version of this thing?

() Fenix2011 2 - 1 Mastermind79 ()
Dimshield or fractal I'd say.

() implosion 2 - 0 Gl1tch ()
Novas probably, do we need more?

() Wizardcat 2 - 0 Nadrin ()
See Ryan V. Kael.

() Rastafla 2 - 1 Cebra ()
Seems like junk to me. Except possibly the momentums, but if we need pillars this should be the first place to convert from IMO.

[suxerz]

I thought we should look at the numbers more clearly so I've taken the suggestion from Salamence's suggestion (not counting any salvages or conversion) and we'll have this in our vault - see spoiler.

Hmm... 41 Light Pendulum and 18 Light Pillar seems a bit tight. Even if we create 2 Nova deck and 1 Immo deck, we'll have on average 9.83 pillars/pends for the remaining 6 decks each.

41   Light Pendulum
18   Light Pillar
16   Miracle
12   Fire Bolt
9   Photon
8   Burning Pillar
8   Immolation
8   Morning Star
8   Ice Bolt
7   Pegasus
6   Deflagration
6   Earthquake
6   Nova
6   Graboid
6   Fire Shield
6   Rage Potion
6   Phoenix
5   Deja Vu
5   Reflective Shield
4   Flying Weapon
4   Bone Wall
4   Blessing
4   Ice Shield
4   Discord
4   Stone Skin
4   Fractal
4   Rain of Fire
4   Holy Light
3   Golden Dragon
3   Poison
3   Hope
2   Fog Shield
2   Sundial
2   Chaos Seed
2   Heal
2   Freeze
2   Solar Shield
2   Fahrenheit
2   Water Pillar
2   Water Pendulum
1   Arsenic
1   Lycanthrope
1   Reverse Time

[asymmetry]

Then we need to start splashing the new pends to compensate the loss. We'll eventually convert them.