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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg307987#msg307987
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2011, 02:44:25 am »
 :fire Napalm Grenade: I'm assuming immorush or fractal MPs.  (Firestall with sanc would be brutal.)  A win vs Fire would greatly help our Firestall decks.
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 :entropy Discorders fails miserably as MPs are so cheap, she can use Immo to counter AM, and if she uses dim shields Discord is worthless.  Even with maxwell's demons, there too many MPs, and not enough healing.

 :death This deck does great vs fire creatures, and once you get plague + bonewall = game over.  The problem is Zblader also wants to use plagues and there's not enough for everyone.

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 :time PotS will do okay given the right draws.  An early neurotoxin is very reassuring.   I'm a bit concerned this will be an expected deck.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg307993#msg307993
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2011, 02:56:31 am »
This is my current best anti-:time deck against Drogana assuming we use sacrificial altar.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308281#msg308281
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2011, 05:14:35 pm »
Two deck ideas, what not uses those cards what is in the fix decks:
Against  :gravity is good both, but i think those are goods against more elements in this round:

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and this a risky deckout deck, because its just 31 cards:

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308283#msg308283
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2011, 05:19:41 pm »
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We don't have the morning stars necessary for this deck.  We only have 3 left to use, due to 1 being located in kirchj33's deck.

The other deck looks solid... it's just a gamble with hoping they put up a 30 card deck.  31 then gives you a coin flip to win, 32+ makes you lose.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308285#msg308285
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2011, 05:22:21 pm »
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Did some tests with valuka with this deck against entropy types.  This deck stands up... even went toe to toe against a 100% counter deck.  I think it should work for round 1.  Will think of modifications if others need some of these cards for themselves, since this is by no means a 95% win.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308292#msg308292
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2011, 05:40:30 pm »
Here are the 3 fire decks Boingo was having problems with last night:

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We also tested vs. fractix with better success:
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I am guessing that Napalm will use phoenixes, but probably not bolts, and the immolations may be spread out so that she doesn't have access to them, but I'd imagine the 24 immos will follow the 24 phoenixes.

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Poison stall
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I also tested this morning with Oty Lock & Valuka's sader deck he posted.  Little success, although Oty Lock seems a good choice with a favorable draw and vs. a deck with no bolts.

Right now my recommendation would be to choose Poison stall & up the poisons to try and keep up damage-wise.  If others can help brainstorm and help out, a win vs. fire/Napalm would be huge for us.



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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308299#msg308299
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2011, 05:54:39 pm »
A win vs Napalm is a win, but so is a win against anyone else.  If its risky, I'd rather devote resources to ensure other battles are won, and not weaken other fronts too much to support this one.  We might have to go Oty against Napalm and hope for little CC.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308377#msg308377
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2011, 07:58:36 pm »
Darn, I forgot the possibility that :time could run momentum scorpions, especially with upgraded cards to speed it up. Not sure if I should go with PoTS because of this, so I'd like to see what you guys think.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308478#msg308478
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2011, 09:48:16 pm »
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We don't have the morning stars necessary for this deck.  We only have 3 left to use, due to 1 being located in kirchj33's deck.
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yep we have just 4 morning stars in total in our vault. the single morning star in kirch decks can be replaced, if have more benefit in a other deck.

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Re: Round 1 strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24038.msg308513#msg308513
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2011, 10:29:00 pm »
These decks beat AI3 Rushstall consistently, fail against discord rush.  Will try golem rush, and fractix after dinner:

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