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Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg177050#msg177050
« on: October 15, 2010, 05:36:56 pm »
Please share what you have so far, any idea welcome. If you improve a deck, share below. I'll erase the old version

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Scorp madness
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Works like a charm
Good against: ? ? ? not tested yet.
Bad because:  Creature contol shuts it.  Also, along the dunescorp deck, we'll get purifies at the subsequent rounds. Better to use it a few times.
Variations: More heals, less adrens.

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Flying shenanigans
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Good against:  :entropy .... ? ? ? not tested yet.
Bad because: Stall owns this.
Variations: General can use mark of  :entropy and 5 upgraded AW.

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'cause I see colors flourishing like you'd never believe... like a pendulum swings, they swing with me!

Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg177131#msg177131
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 07:59:39 pm »
I thought about replacing the shards in fire stall/control with miracles, and this is what I ended up with after some tweaking and lightification.

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I never finished testing it, but I'll be gone 'til Sunday so I figured I should post it just in case. Use it if you like, but it probably still needs tweaking. I'll tweak it when I get back if there's still time and nobody else already has. I think there may be too many miracles. It usually sets up by T3, but currently it has quanta problems about 15% of the time.

Usually you just whittle with the MS, control with the shields, potions, and RoFs. The bolts can be played on the opponent's HP as an early finisher. Also, the bolts should be saved on the off chance your opponent has more cards, or an eternity. It can be used as a deckout deck or a bolt finisher, depending on the situation.

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Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg177232#msg177232
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 10:29:35 pm »
Nice, but what about healing?
Angels and rage work pretty good.. as long as you heal on the turn you rage potion..
Basically you get an upgraded angel.. but I usually prefer angels (or holy light) with rage potion to rapidly buff something else (dragons/pegasus)

Just ideas..

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Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg177868#msg177868
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 07:49:41 pm »
Maybe something like this? Rage pot can also act as a CC. Just throwing out some ideas.

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Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg177968#msg177968
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 11:06:48 pm »
An interesting thread..
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14094.0/topicseen.html
I thought there were some solid ideas.. even if a lot are variations of what we already have..

EDIT: Similar to ours just posted.. (closer to a time/light duo for team Time - and not as solid in testing - as ours)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14086.0/topicseen.html

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Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg178249#msg178249
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 01:18:09 pm »
Salamence, maybe you can swap a  light pendulum for a flying weapon  :air so you can have 2 of your stars hitting. Nice stall, need to try it.

An interesting thread..
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14094.0/topicseen.html
I thought there were some solid ideas.. even if a lot are variations of what we already have..

EDIT: Similar to ours just posted.. (closer to a time/light duo for team Time - and not as solid in testing - as ours)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14086.0/topicseen.html
The first link has some weak/slow decks, and other with veeery interesting concepts (abominable hope, the dragon weeps, and the last 3)
Some of them may seem risky or even silly, but if we test them, maybe some give a good result. I like this guy :) we'll see him in War:underworld.

As regards that... we better pack black holes against underworld (if we're ever randomly paired with one of them)


Ehm, this is an approach to a lightbow (trying to make more of these), a kind of deck that'll suit xdude the most, since he can carry 6 ups. I'm trying to make it work both up and unupped.

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My attempt at a PU pegasus draft ... tried to lobo them so they stay buffed, but nope.
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A (promising?) rustler rush with 6 ups.
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Puppy's nymph rush (unupgradeable?)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3102.msg31783#msg31783
So, tell me my friend, what can you see? What comes into your mind as you breathe?
'cause I see colors flourishing like you'd never believe... like a pendulum swings, they swing with me!

Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg179025#msg179025
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 01:53:32 pm »
After testing quite a few versions of my earlier deck, I ended up with 2 versions that I liked.

For facing decks with QC:
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Initially the idea of the Immo was to get a first turn fire shield, but even with the fairly thick lines*, it rarely happens. However, Photon + Immo + RoF gets you out of devourer lock (unless they burrow), and the Immo can be used to gain quanta even when you've been EQ'd. Granted, this isn't going to help you with you miracles, but it does help with controlling the opponent until you get more pillars.

@asymmetry: I tried the flying weapon, but it really didn't help. 'sides it's a 5-card combo (Photon + Immo + MS + Flying Weapon + MS) that only helps early game (~80% of the time I killed my opponent with 1 MS before drawing all the cards needed to get out a second one).

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Yes, I realize there are fire pillars in here. If that's a problem, swap them with light pendulums, but personally I like it with the fire pillars, so I posted it that way.

PC is not a huge problem for either deck 'cause the MSs are immortal, and if your fire shield get taken/destroyed just use your other control cards or drop another. The deck can be rushed, but only on a bad draw, which isn't common. Feel free to test and tweak it, I'm all for making all our decks as good as they can be.

I'm off to work on trying to make an unconventional deck or two work well.

* Just in case you didn't know, I meant that I was running a lot of the cards required for the combo.


EDIT: Here's one of those crazy decks I was working on:

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It pwns most control decks***, but (obviously) has trouble dealing with rushes, and certain shields**. I know it looks ridiculous, but it's actually pretty good if it stays away from rushes and the 3 shields**. If we do use it, it's probably best suited to taking out control decks. In fact, it was designed to be a control-proof rush**** without using Quint.

I hate rewind so much after testing this.

** Gravity Shield, Phase Shield, and Hope to be precise.

*** The ones that it doesn't pwn are the ones that have rewind...duh.

****  Stop laughing.

EDIT2 (V1.3):

Quote from: asymmetry
vampire light dragon+angels to heal them (need help with this one!)
Here's my favorite version thus far:
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I tried this same deck with angels instead of blessings. Personally, I like the blessing version.

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Re: Multipurpose decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14026.msg181207#msg181207
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 07:58:56 pm »
An favourite of mine (tweaked to get the 50% light so may need a touch of balance)

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The idea works and I usually don't have any problems with it.. obviously open for tweaking for a specific purpose - just wanted to convey the idea.

 

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