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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg439751#msg439751
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2011, 08:32:16 pm »
So far, the decks mrblonde had been using:

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+6 salvages from napalm's mono fire deck; probably going to be converted


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+6 salvages from...

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And here's mrblonde's vault made ONLY from round 10 results so far, excluding salvages:

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What are those mystery 15 cards would be... If he hid plague somewhere, it would hurt a lot for us. Or else, we won the war. gg.

More research incoming



EDIT : in round 8, ralouf1 used this deck to win, meaning they have at least two plagues right now

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Plus their salvages gave them a lot of random rainbow cards.
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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg439762#msg439762
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2011, 08:41:57 pm »
They also probably have 6 dimshields.

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg439773#msg439773
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2011, 08:56:16 pm »
they must have some, cause of jaymanfus salvage in round 8

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4 more dims + that 6 dims from jays round 7 deck makes probably 10... so converting some makes sense and they have some left!

i prefer that otk deflag nova combo ^^

so for salvage from time.... take those grabbys for making earth greetings ^^ kaker and me as former earth member love grabbys... and bunnys, obviously!  8) (no matter how dumb it sounds) ^^
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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg439809#msg439809
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2011, 09:32:43 pm »
There was no Salvage in Round 8. They used them in round 7 vs :air and won. I doubt they would have converted them, since Dim Shields are win.

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg439865#msg439865
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2011, 11:02:10 pm »
oh, thats true... forgot about that no salvagething... but i totaly agree with expecting dims!
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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440273#msg440273
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2011, 05:39:16 am »
Worst case scenario. Tested this:
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Yes, I know it sucks. But the basic functions are there  :))

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Well, 2 steals. Maybe they have more. I think they will avoid nightmares because of sancs, so only steals or dragons will be good salvages for them from darkness (or random rainbow stuff).

So hope will be hard to use. Other shielding option is dimshield. Again, steals. Rush?

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440301#msg440301
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2011, 09:16:45 am »
What was the test result, sefi? Also, as I mentioned earlier in the 1st page, I'm pretty sure the only rainbow stuff that death can possibly have is from the salvages from fire and darkness.

Sorry, I can't contribute much this time. If you ask me, I prefer the 2nd Volt that Zeru posted in chat:
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Btw, your match is on Wednesday, 22:00 GMT, majofa? That's already past the deadline. Or... am I missing something here?

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440637#msg440637
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2011, 03:52:41 am »
Well, no wins. Just saying that even a fast RoL/Hope can't beat their plagues with only 4 fractals left. Voting for volt or something similar.
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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440841#msg440841
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2011, 07:26:11 pm »
I'm rooting for volt as well. Testing confirms that RoL hope absolutely can't stand against plague.

But then again, what if they know we're not gonna go RoL hope and go something that counters volt? In that case, we'll safely be able to place RoL hope. But then again what if they saw THAT coming and went for plague instead? Then we'd use volt, in which case they would somehow foresee it and not use plague but then again blahblahbalhbal

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440854#msg440854
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2011, 07:48:19 pm »
They will play Plagues, because the know how powerful it is against our strongest deck.

(I tried working on a rainbow, but since they decided to split, we don't have the cards we need to give it enough kick.

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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440933#msg440933
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2011, 10:20:51 pm »
Had a random Idea of going Rainbow (salvages: 4x Nova, Arse, Grabby):
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It kind'a failed hard against AI3 -.- maybe it gives someone another idea and would hardly work against Death.
Maybe a random fractal for possible damage burst might help there.

Another idea is the not-so-new DimStall + Fractal kill.
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Big problem: Miracle Counters the Fractal... so it has to be used with caution. Didn't test it against Death, but it probably won't work either. PC + Poison > Dim Stall.

So jeah, probably the best thing would be a duo, maybe with a Steal and Deflag off 3 Novas.
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Re: Final Round ~ Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34702.msg440963#msg440963
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2011, 11:14:51 pm »
So this is what I came up with...
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