Light Deck

[Demut]

It was so arrogant, rude, irrelevant, unhelpful and jerkish that it transcended all of those into just stupid.

That wasn't constructive criticism by any definition and was not even relevant to this discussion.

You might as well have told him to remove everything, replace with 12 earth pillars, stick in six graboids, six shriekers, six basalisk bloods and change mark to time.

Thats about how relevant your suggestion was.

[geekz_always_win]

So basically, you're saying that I changed the deck too much. Right? Replacing 12 cards is too much? 12 is much less than 30 if you've noticed, and it's still a mono-light deck.

If  I gave you a deck with 18 time pillars, 6 anubises and 6 hourglasses with mark of  , what would you do? Surely you would give me some kind of massive overhaul so I can use the abilities and stuff better. His deck is about the same caliber.

[thatnewguy]

can we get back to fixing the deck and less what is stupid or not?

[Demut]

So basically, you're saying that I changed the deck too much. Right? Replacing 12 cards is too much? 12 is much less than 30 if you've noticed, and it's still a mono-light deck.

If  I gave you a deck with 18 time pillars, 6 anubises and 6 hourglasses with mark of  , what would you do? Surely you would give me some kind of massive overhaul so I can use the abilities and stuff better. His deck is about the same caliber.

No I wouldn't. I would have simply given a list of well explained reasons why the deck wouldn't work and told him that there is no way to fix the deck.

You didn't improve his deck with your suggestions, you didn't fix it, you completely altered the conceptualized strategy of the deck.

And that is bad.

[MrMojo]

Uh....
I'd take out the Photons and add in blessings >_>

[Demut]

That doesn't solve his quanta problems.

[Blasting-Light]

Ok, I suggest removing 6 photons and 6 Holy Lights.

+4 Pegasi
+4 Blessing
+4 Pillars
Mark change to air.

That would make a count of 16 Light Pillars, then it would be better if you added atleast 2 miracles. Just to give a back up without those Holy Lights.
ElementsDecks may not know about the Trainer yet, so try to help him guys. Don't just go around saying his decks sucks, he does the best he can.

[EvaRia]

...
Does he even care?
Until he posts in any of his thread recognizing that he is appreciating the feedback, I suggest dropping trying to fix it.

It's just that the deck not being on the better side makes it seem sloppy and trollish, and if he doesn't actually care about it, then there's no reason to fix a broken deck that nobody cares about. I suggest that if Elementsdecks doesn't post to recognize that the feedback is needed and/or helpful soon, then we lock the topics, as it will get the community nowhere flaming each other and wasting time trying to fix a deck that nobody even wants fixed.

I would provide suggestions, but until he posts saying that he wants them, it simply isn't worth my time.

[Calindu]

Totally unefective:dragons+photons=lol...really slow.Just change all of them,only keep pillars

[teffy]

geekz_always_win suggested this:

Ok, I suggest removing 6 photons and 6 Holy Lights.

+4 Pegasi
+4 Blessing
+4 Pillars
Mark change to air.

Ok, you could use Pegasi in a light deck like xdude does (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12931.0.html). Pegasi in a light deck are indeed good: You could use the Pegasi to be fast, OR you could make a light deck with Pegasi and Air Mark and Short Bow, and use Miracle+ Luciferin for Elemental Masteries...
Not Holy Light, because you can´t cast it directly after Miracle- unless you upgrade it.
This are good reasons to use Pegasi in unupgraded light decks against AI3.
But it´s not the only way to use the healing potential of light - I don´t know how many Miracles you have.
You could simply throw some high damage cards in your deck and some healing cards.


In your case:

The reason because many people don´t like your photons is the following:
Sure, 1/1 photons damage can add up , are better than nothing, and cost nothing, but they take a card slot in your deck, and you only get 1 card per turn. Many people say:" A card slot for a 1/1 creature is a price, which is too high, if the photon hasn´t a good reason to be there."

Some ideas to improve your deck, without changing it completely:

Luciferin vs Holy Light: You use creatures without skills, vanilla creatures. Luciferin can heal you and give you a quanta source. Holy Light is useful against the dragons of 3 of the 12 AIs. You need max 1 Holy Light in these games.
That means I would at least change some of the Holy Lights into Luciferin.

1 Solar Shield:
A nice quanta source, especially against AI3.

A weapon:
To use the weapon slot is often a good idea: The best choice here is Morning Star, then Short Bow or Short Sword.

P.S.
You can also use the trainer (http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer)

[wildgoldenpk]

Don't be mean T_T