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Vault Building - Countering War 5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45971.msg1031817#msg1031817
« on: January 14, 2013, 01:26:58 am »
Alright, this is directly related to vault building, but I made it its own thread because it's probably gonna take up a fair bit of space. Also its more about what other elements used against us effectively last War than anything else. I'll start going through the archives and finding decks that we lost against and finding a counter to them. We can use that information to work on building this Wars vault. will - if you disagree, just move this into the other topic, or let me know or something.

Lastly, each decks spoiler title will have something like "R1 Aether" this lets you know which round it was used in, as well as which element it was used by.


Spoiler for Hidden:
Spoiler for R1 Aether:
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61u 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7dm 7dm 81q 8pm

Spoiler for R4 Aether:
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5la 5la 5li 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pq
Spoiler for R2 Air:
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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5od 5og 5og 5on 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5up 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 7mt 7mt 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 7tb 7tb 8pt
Spoiler for R2/R3 Earth:
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58r 58s 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5l8 5l8 5l8 5li 5li 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 77c 77c 8pq
Spoiler for R1 Entropy:
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vg 4vl 4vl 500 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 6u9 6u9 8pj
Spoiler for R2 Entropy:
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4vg 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 542 542 71a 71a 8pk
Spoiler for R3 Fire:
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5ur 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 8pm
Spoiler for R1 Light:
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55s 55s 55s 55s 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 7n2 7n2 8pl
Spoiler for R2 Light:
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5la 5la 5la 61o 63a 63a 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 624 80b 80b 8pu
Spoiler for R3 Light:
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5lf 5lf 5lf 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 55s 55s 55s 55s 7n2 7n2 8pl
Spoiler for R1 Time:
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5ro 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 7q5 7q5 7q5 8pu
Spoiler for R3 Time:
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5t2 5t2 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ro 5s4 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7ri 7ri 7t9 7th 7tb 8pt
Spoiler for R3 Water:
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ib 5ib 5ib 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 7gm 7gm 7tb 7tb 8pt
Spoiler for R7 Aether:
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4vj 4vj 5lm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 74a 7jq 7ju 7k6 7k6 7k6 8pq


Yes, it is a huge amount of information to attempt to digest all at once. The primary purpose of this, however, is simply to allow us a chance to see each deck that managed to beat us in some manner. Surprisingly few of our losses last War were a result of DimShield - most appear to be either a stall, loaded with CC, or simply outrushed. In a large amount of these cases, adding a few specific cards and counter multiple decks.

Anyway, I need food - I'll be back in a couple hours to start working on the Vault itself.

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Re: Vault Building - Countering War 5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45971.msg1031876#msg1031876
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 03:59:05 am »
Time seems like it's going to be one of the hardest to deal with to me, personally.  I still have not found a deck which reliably counters both Ghostmare and Ghostal, which are both pretty big threats.

Aether and Fire are going to be difficult to predict nearly all of the time because the two of them are probably the most versatile Elements in the game.

As Bell pointed out to me in chat, a lot of opponents seemed to be more interested in countering Frogtal, which also probably explains why not many people used Dims against us.  If people are that worried about Frogtal then that's probably something we can use to our advantage somewhere.
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